Browning 1911 380 Magazine issues?

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I have a Browning 1911 380 that stovepipes the 7th round out of the 8 round magazine more often than not using either of two Browning magazines.

I'm inclined to blame this on a weak magazine spring.

Anyone else notice a similar problem with these guns?

Thanks, Doug
 
Yes, this is not an uncommon problem.

Some people get relief by closing the magazine feed lips down to around .310 - .313.

I've done that. I also lightly hand-polished all the friction surfaces between slide and frame (especially the disconnector ramp in the slide), as well as the barrel ramp and inside bottom of the barrel hood. I used a little Flitz polish on a cloth. Mother's Mag Wheel Polish works too, I'm told.

Don't even think about getting a Dremel near a Black Label.

The last thing I've done is switched to a very light oil...in this case Rem Oil...and I apply it liberally.

Since doing those things I've had more than 500 cycles with only one seventh-round stovepipe jam.

You can, if you wish, send an email to [email protected] and politely request they add replacement magazine and recoil springs for the Black Label.380 to their line of products. They are the people who sell Wolff replacement springs for a number of firearms and are generally regarded to be the one of the best sources for such things. They are very nice people to talk to, but as of this time they have not committed to supporting the Black Label .380. Maybe your e-mail will be the one that convinces them.

As an experiment, they sent me one of their generic .380 mag springs to test on a no promise, no obligation basis. Their spring appeared to be made from wire that is about one gauge heavier than the OEM spring and was noticeably stiffer.

I trimmed it to the same length as the OEM spring (16 turns) and, of course, the little loop that protrudes from the mag follower to activate the slide hold-back when the mag is empty wasn't there, but I found a particularly troublesome mag to work perfectly through 100 rounds with the heavier spring.

I reported my (admittedly unscientific) results to both Gunsprings and Browning. Gunsprings thanked me for my time, but remained non-committal. I never received a response from Browning.
 
RB,

You and I corresponded on this issue on "browningowners.com". I was hoping to solicit a different crowd than you guys but glad to hear from you here. Welcome.

I ordered a set of .32/380 springs from Wolff based on my limited experiment using a Bersa thunder spring in the Browning magazine. The Bersa spring is about .038" dia vs. the .034" of the Browning spring.

We'll see how that goes.
 
By all means, let us know how that turns out.

You may find it's a bit tricky to shape the bottom loop so it holds the mag's foot plate in place. Took a little heat and several tries.
 
Just picked up the mail and received the Wolff spring package this afternoon. Four days from order to delivery over a weekend!

The wire diameter is .0364" measured mid length along the side where I could measure it. I wish I had measured the over-all spring length of the Browning spring before cycling them a few times.

I see that tweaking both ends of the spring for bottom plate catch and top slide latch may present some quality issues for the home builder and I now see that the Wolff spring is wound CCW while the Browning spring is wound CW (clock wise)! I hope that does not become an issue.

I'm going hunting for a week or so; I'll get back to you.

Doug
 
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