ghost squire
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fistful, can't say I blame you, and I can understand where you're coming from, on several different things.
Browning Buckmark or Ruger 22/45 ?
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ghostsquire,
Thanks for the advice and the sympathy. As far as my grip, I try to get as high as possible, as this controls the gun better. Don't we all? I prefer to use my strong-hand thumb for the safety, and that worked a lot better with the Buckmark that I looked at, though I suppose the weak-side thumb would work, too. The only controls that would get in the way would be the safety and slide release, but one might have this problem with a lot of guns.
I expect I will buy a Buckmark.
Thanks for the advice and the sympathy. As far as my grip, I try to get as high as possible, as this controls the gun better. Don't we all? I prefer to use my strong-hand thumb for the safety, and that worked a lot better with the Buckmark that I looked at, though I suppose the weak-side thumb would work, too. The only controls that would get in the way would be the safety and slide release, but one might have this problem with a lot of guns.
I expect I will buy a Buckmark.
Im trying to decide between the same two guns right now (ruger MKIII or buck mark)
Its a tough choice, they both have their selling points, but I think Im leaning towards the buckmark for ease of taking apart/cleaning, and i like the grips available for it better (and I dont want to mod this gun)
Its a tough choice, they both have their selling points, but I think Im leaning towards the buckmark for ease of taking apart/cleaning, and i like the grips available for it better (and I dont want to mod this gun)
Wynterbourne
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Why not just get a Rock Island Armory 1911? Runs about 30 bucks more than the Buckmark on Gunbroker and at the local gun shows.
They're actually supposed to be relatively reliable, after a little fluff and buff, though the finish isn't as spiffy as the higher end 1911's.
They're actually supposed to be relatively reliable, after a little fluff and buff, though the finish isn't as spiffy as the higher end 1911's.
berettashotgun
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Exactly where is the safety on my 1911 style pistols- I can't seem to find them anywhere 
, have a 22/45 5.5 bull stainless and love it. Hogue slip on is a good idea, until it comes cleaning time :banghead: . For the price of a used 22/45 or the browning (which I have never even held in my hand) you'll get real close on a used 45acp something or another. BUT, if funds are kinda low, like they are for everyone nowdays, 22 ammo sure gives a fella more trigger time. BTW, bought my 22/45 new in '95 for $200.00, only to teach my 2 boys the little things about handguns- they were bored to tears after a complete disassembly ( and I mean COMPLETE ) when we got home with the pistol from the gunshop. Guess what?, they both can work that 22/45 into the X ring, and had a real smooth transition to the Para P-14- they got real big hands 
from the mailman 
, have a 22/45 5.5 bull stainless and love it. Hogue slip on is a good idea, until it comes cleaning time :banghead: . For the price of a used 22/45 or the browning (which I have never even held in my hand) you'll get real close on a used 45acp something or another. BUT, if funds are kinda low, like they are for everyone nowdays, 22 ammo sure gives a fella more trigger time. BTW, bought my 22/45 new in '95 for $200.00, only to teach my 2 boys the little things about handguns- they were bored to tears after a complete disassembly ( and I mean COMPLETE ) when we got home with the pistol from the gunshop. Guess what?, they both can work that 22/45 into the X ring, and had a real smooth transition to the Para P-14- they got real big hands from the mailman AZ Jeff
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For those persons recommending the Buckmark, I have one question:
Is it injurious to a Buckmark to dry fire the pistol without a snap cap?
I know for a fact that dry firing a Ruger Mark I, II, or III (or the .22/45 cousin) is NOT harmful in the slightest.
For those persons who want to practice sight alignment/trigger control when off the range, dry firing is essential.
So......can one do this with a Buckmark?
Is it injurious to a Buckmark to dry fire the pistol without a snap cap?
I know for a fact that dry firing a Ruger Mark I, II, or III (or the .22/45 cousin) is NOT harmful in the slightest.
For those persons who want to practice sight alignment/trigger control when off the range, dry firing is essential.
So......can one do this with a Buckmark?
fistful,
I didn't mean for my post to come across as rude, insulting, dismisive, or abrasive. My apologies if that's how it read, and I assure you it was not my itention to annoy you.
I'm just saying that find a .22 with a more upright grip angle, and safety that switches upwards for safe, and that's all you need to transition to the 1911. If they have that, then they are all pretty much on a level playing field (no matter what they claim).
Well, see what you reccon.
I didn't mean for my post to come across as rude, insulting, dismisive, or abrasive. My apologies if that's how it read, and I assure you it was not my itention to annoy you.
I'm just saying that find a .22 with a more upright grip angle, and safety that switches upwards for safe, and that's all you need to transition to the 1911. If they have that, then they are all pretty much on a level playing field (no matter what they claim).
Well, see what you reccon.
AZ Jeff said:
Alot of people will tell you that they can be dry fired, but I know mine does have a divot on the breach face, from when the gun has failed to feed, but cocked, and I have then pulled the trigger, expecting a round to be chambered.
Apparently I could file back the firing pin slightly to alheviate this.
fistful
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Alright, Arch, no harm done. Thanks for the advice.
Cool, thanks mate.
Oh, and if it's a Browning vs Ruger thing, I'll cast my vote for the Buckmark.
I have shot about 2000 rounds though a 22/45 MkII, and brought a buckmark standard. The buckmark was a nicer fit for me (although I did become quite comfortable with the 22/45), and I thought that it was a little more refined than the Ruger (nicer finish, nicer looks). But all that is pretty subjective.
The only thing I reget is getting the Buckmark standard, and not the target, as I would have prefered more weight up front.
If you get a Buckmark, just dont to what I did, and buy 1000 rounds of PMC ammo, to find that it doesn't cycle though the gun.
Oh, and if it's a Browning vs Ruger thing, I'll cast my vote for the Buckmark.
I have shot about 2000 rounds though a 22/45 MkII, and brought a buckmark standard. The buckmark was a nicer fit for me (although I did become quite comfortable with the 22/45), and I thought that it was a little more refined than the Ruger (nicer finish, nicer looks). But all that is pretty subjective.
The only thing I reget is getting the Buckmark standard, and not the target, as I would have prefered more weight up front.
If you get a Buckmark, just dont to what I did, and buy 1000 rounds of PMC ammo, to find that it doesn't cycle though the gun.
MrAcheson
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I'm a buckmark guy. I looked at the 22/45 in my local shop, but it didn't feel right. The grip is too boxy and the controls were wrong. I had already shot the rental buckmarks at my range, so that sold me on the buckmark.
I paid $200 for my Buckmark (used). You can't buy a 1911 worth owning for that price. My RIA was $320 new and the used ones around here aren't much less. That is the cheapest I would go.
It was a bit unreliable. Then I detail stripped it. Turned out the previous owner had never cleaned the thing. I detail stripped the Buckmark without instructions and with only simple tools. I've heard stripping a Ruger the first time is pretty nightmarish. The Buckmark wasn't as easy as my 1911 or hipower, but it really wasn't bad as long as you had some basic tools around. The biggest worry was losing little parts and pins.
As for the buckmark losing zero, I haven't found that to be the case. I shoot at practical defense ranges, mostly 7 to 15 yards. If I was shooting bullseye at 25+ yards with a scope, maybe I'd notice a difference.
I paid $200 for my Buckmark (used). You can't buy a 1911 worth owning for that price. My RIA was $320 new and the used ones around here aren't much less. That is the cheapest I would go.
It was a bit unreliable. Then I detail stripped it. Turned out the previous owner had never cleaned the thing. I detail stripped the Buckmark without instructions and with only simple tools. I've heard stripping a Ruger the first time is pretty nightmarish. The Buckmark wasn't as easy as my 1911 or hipower, but it really wasn't bad as long as you had some basic tools around. The biggest worry was losing little parts and pins.
As for the buckmark losing zero, I haven't found that to be the case. I shoot at practical defense ranges, mostly 7 to 15 yards. If I was shooting bullseye at 25+ yards with a scope, maybe I'd notice a difference.
rbernie
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If this divot gets deep enough, it can cause extraction problems (from the rim peening into the divot). So this is probably best expressed as, 'you can dry-fire a Buckmark but be prepared to occasionally dress down the divot that you're creating'.
If I want to dry-fire my Buckmark, I usually just save a spent casing and drop it back into the chamber. VOILA! Free snap-cap.
svtruth
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I have a High Standard HD Military in .22lr which does not operate like a 1911 ( the barrel is stationary) but handles just like it. I think it was developed as a training gun.
Good luck.
I have a High Standard HD Military in .22lr which does not operate like a 1911 ( the barrel is stationary) but handles just like it. I think it was developed as a training gun.
Good luck.
Dollar An Hour
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The Buck Mark line is dizzying with choices. If I want a nice plinker/range fun-gun, should I be looking at the Standard or Camper? Does the Plus model just add the Hi-Viz front sight and wood grips?
Northslope Nimrod
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I chose the Buckmark...primarily for the trigger & feel. However, I do like the sturdy construction of the Rugers.
I was surprised that most of the shooters at the local range carried Rugers on .22 night.
Someday I'll own one too.
I was surprised that most of the shooters at the local range carried Rugers on .22 night.
Someday I'll own one too.
Red Tornado
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I've got the 22/45 and like it a lot. However, I've shot a Buckmark and they're wonderful as well, and they do have a nicer trigger out of the box. I went through the same choices, and you really can't go wrong with either.
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Allright I see what I missed. I'm a SIG guy, so I normally have no safety to rest my thumb on. I can see how this would not be a problem for 1911 and USP users!
Buckmark it is then, thats what I recommend for any 1911 man.
Buckmark it is then, thats what I recommend for any 1911 man.
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