Bullet casting machine
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blarby
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http://www.magmaengineering.com/component/banners/click/9/
and here is your link to the FFL you wil be needing, 06 style
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/how-to/become-an-ffl.html
and here is your link to the FFL you wil be needing, 06 style
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/how-to/become-an-ffl.html
GE-Mini-Gun
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Don't need an FFL for bullets
ljnowell
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To re-sell them, no. To manufacture your own and sell them, yes. It seems I remember brad from Missouri Bullet talking about the FFL, ITAR certification, etc. There are definately red tape issues involved with manufacturing bullets.
GE-Mini-Gun
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Looked it up...you are correct and I stand corrected. Never would have thought one would need an FFL to sell bullets (components). Kinda always thought the "red tape" people have talked about with the government was "slight" BS...Kow better now.
Arkansas Paul
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GE-Mini-Gun, I was surprised when I found that out as well. It's silly, but it is the law.
blarby
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I love this place.
ljnowell
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blarby said:
Yep, me too. You do see the occasional bicker over things, but they are usually minor and related to someones favorite powder, etc.
For overwhelming amount of information and experience this is the best reloading forum on the internet, hands down.
Arkansas Paul
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Yeah. AA#2 sucks. So does 2400, especially for big bore cast loads.
kerreckt
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Yup, AA#2 does suck!!
Searcher4851
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The Gun Control Act 1968 states: The term "ammunition" means ammunition OR cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm".
ljnowell
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Arkansas Paul said:
Without a doubt, lol. Honestly though, I think I can load every single handgun caliber with those two powders, and be happy! Though I still find myself with a bunch of 1 and 4 pound cans.
SSN Vet
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I exchanged PMs with a gent who makes components about ITAR, and he stated that if you were not making items intended for export, you didn't need to register.
You'll notice that some companies require you to state that you are not buying their products for export, b4 you can place an online order.
They are most likely not ITAR registered and are trying to cover their rear ends.
You'll notice that some companies require you to state that you are not buying their products for export, b4 you can place an online order.
They are most likely not ITAR registered and are trying to cover their rear ends.
Push come to shove I think he'll be in for a surprise
Contact ricketts , I think he's over on the FAL Files he had one recently for sale. IMO it was priced to high , a little over a grand then what I gave for mine but still would be a good start. The harder thing to find is a luber at a price that doesen't choke you and a Star with all the trimmings dosen't cut it BTDT
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hueyville
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Rather than start a new thread thought I would Segway a previous similar topic into my little idea. I have been casting huge amounts of bullets lately. Always had at least a weekly casting session but now it is two to three times a week and going for hours trying to keep friends fed who were unprepared while keeping my needs filled. My little Lyman Mag 20 is running dry every few minutes and almost all of my ingots are gone. I have a cobbled up mess of an old cast iron pot with a gas burner to alloy and cast ingots with but it relies on a dipper which adds effort to keep any floating contaminants out of the ingots. So since today is my birthday and not a darn thing anyone can buy me that I don't already have (unless one of you want to buy me my own country where I can be the ruling Monarch and make the laws where all are required to carry guns, not just one but at least two at all times..) I told my wife I was going to piddle with a project instead of work today. I grabbed up random pieces of some really rusty odd sized scrap and went to work
So here is the beginning of what should be a 50 pound gas fired, bottom pour casting furnace. It will be built in a manner that I can pour ingots or bullets with my big 6 and 8 cavity molds. My guess is that this is going to work, but not as well as I want thus become an R&D unit to learn what does and does not work. I am sure it is going to end up needing a double wall, some kiln insulation and other stuff as we run it and work out the kinks. My question is to any of y'all that may have tried this. What were the lessons you learned that were a surprise? The pour mechanism is going to be a close copy to the Lyman Mag 20. I am going to have a short spout from the pour hole to aid in maneuvering molds and an adjustable rest for supporting the molds while using as they get heavy when they get big. I have 1/2" vermiculite on the way for insulation and going to encase that in some 10 gauge metal. I have a 240 volt electric burner in a scrap box but don't know how many people would have a spare 240 volt outlet if I decided to make a few when my fabricator had slow days. A small BBQ propane tank seems like the easy way. Use this for the big tasks then carry your ingots inside to your electric furnace for leisure casting. Ideas and suggestions being solicited. No intentions of starting a business with these per say but my fab guy could build two or three a month on slow days instead of pushing a broom.
Once I get this thing to heat, pour and function properly, going to make another based on lessons learned and that is attractive. Can have all metal sheared to size and once I have it exactly laid out on paper and fully functioning, repeatability of future models would be easy to build and look like a factory built it. Based on the price tag of electric models like a Mag 20 costing 340.00 now at Midway, what would y'all think a person would be willing to pay for a well designed and functioning pot that would hold over 50 pounds?
So here is the beginning of what should be a 50 pound gas fired, bottom pour casting furnace. It will be built in a manner that I can pour ingots or bullets with my big 6 and 8 cavity molds. My guess is that this is going to work, but not as well as I want thus become an R&D unit to learn what does and does not work. I am sure it is going to end up needing a double wall, some kiln insulation and other stuff as we run it and work out the kinks. My question is to any of y'all that may have tried this. What were the lessons you learned that were a surprise? The pour mechanism is going to be a close copy to the Lyman Mag 20. I am going to have a short spout from the pour hole to aid in maneuvering molds and an adjustable rest for supporting the molds while using as they get heavy when they get big. I have 1/2" vermiculite on the way for insulation and going to encase that in some 10 gauge metal. I have a 240 volt electric burner in a scrap box but don't know how many people would have a spare 240 volt outlet if I decided to make a few when my fabricator had slow days. A small BBQ propane tank seems like the easy way. Use this for the big tasks then carry your ingots inside to your electric furnace for leisure casting. Ideas and suggestions being solicited. No intentions of starting a business with these per say but my fab guy could build two or three a month on slow days instead of pushing a broom.
Once I get this thing to heat, pour and function properly, going to make another based on lessons learned and that is attractive. Can have all metal sheared to size and once I have it exactly laid out on paper and fully functioning, repeatability of future models would be easy to build and look like a factory built it. Based on the price tag of electric models like a Mag 20 costing 340.00 now at Midway, what would y'all think a person would be willing to pay for a well designed and functioning pot that would hold over 50 pounds?
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