bullets for 7x57 ackley improved

[Varminterror]

The tips, jackets, and cores aren’t so different as to label them polar opposites, so for intents and purposes, they’re not so different in these aspects. HOWEVER - the big difference between the two is the bonding. Accubonds don’t come apart, the core is fluxed and bonded to the jacket, so weight retention and penetration is greatly improved. They still have relatively rapid expansion due to the polymer tip, more rapid than a typical softpoint, but the accubond bullet doesn’t completely come apart like the ballistic tip and CT ballistic silvertips.

On the outside, they look very similar. On the inside of game, they act very differently. The accubonds are in a class with the partition, Swift A frame, and the tipped monometal bullets like Barnes. The BT’s and BST’s are in the class with the V-max and SST type bullets.

I love the BST’s, BT’s, SST’s, Vmax’s, and ELD’s for the job they’re made to do. Fantastic up to deer and hogs, but lacking penetration for bigger quarry. Enter the NAB’s, Interbonds, TTSX, E-tip, GMX, A-frame... these 3 types of bullets have their own design attributes which offer reliable, rapid initial expansion, but ensure high weight retention for deep penetration. Of course, these attributes come with increased production cost, and resultingly increased purchase prices.

 

[troy fairweather]

My Husqvarna in 7x57 AI was my favorite rifle for over 30 years. I killed moose, elk, antelope, mule and whitetail deer plus bears and 13 African animals with one load. That load was 52 gr. of IMR 4350 with a 140 gr. Nosler Partition.

You won't go wrong with that combo.

love those husqvarnas to bad they dont come around here very much i always wonted a 22 full stock. your load is very similar to mine for 7x57 i use 50 imr 4350 and have liked 51.5-52.5 grains 4350. i did one quick load for my ruger in 7x57 with h4831sc and i think 48.6 just using the lee diper and a 150 i think they were hornadys thats the bad part about buying midways factory seconds, that load id a .195 group from the ruger i have a pic somewhere have to find it the Sierras prohunters 140 shot well under a inch to. thanks for the reply and your info.

 

[troy fairweather]

The tips, jackets, and cores aren’t so different as to label them polar opposites, so for intents and purposes, they’re not so different in these aspects. HOWEVER - the big difference between the two is the bonding. Accubonds don’t come apart, the core is fluxed and bonded to the jacket, so weight retention and penetration is greatly improved. They still have relatively rapid expansion due to the polymer tip, more rapid than a typical softpoint, but the accubond bullet doesn’t completely come apart like the ballistic tip and CT ballistic silvertips.

On the outside, they look very similar. On the inside of game, they act very differently. The accubonds are in a class with the partition, Swift A frame, and the tipped monometal bullets like Barnes. The BT’s and BST’s are in the class with the V-max and SST type bullets.

I love the BST’s, BT’s, SST’s, Vmax’s, and ELD’s for the job they’re made to do. Fantastic up to deer and hogs, but lacking penetration for bigger quarry. Enter the NAB’s, Interbonds, TTSX, E-tip, GMX, A-frame... these 3 types of bullets have their own design attributes which offer reliable, rapid initial expansion, but ensure high weight retention for deep penetration. Of course, these attributes come with increased production cost, and resultingly increased purchase prices.

thanks midway has the accubonds for a ok price about 50 cents each i think they made a 150 may have to try some, ether way im going to need some more 4350 lol

 

[Patocazador]

Troy, sadly my rifle met with a fatal accident. If I were younger I would have a rifle made in that caliber with a Rem 700 action and trigger. I'll settle for my .257 Roberts AI instead. I have no further use for my 7x57 AI dies. If you need these dies, pm me.

 

[troy fairweather]

any off u guys know of a good out side neck turner for cheap. my dad has a foster case trimmer i think they make one for it maybe the cheapest way to go

 

[troy fairweather]

Troy, sadly my rifle met with a fatal accident. If I were younger I would have a rifle made in that caliber with a Rem 700 action and trigger. I'll settle for my .257 Roberts AI instead. I have no further use for my 7x57 AI dies. If you need these dies, pm me.

sorry to here that

 

[troy fairweather]

guys im going sailwater fishing for the weekend ill be back Saturday night just to let u know

 

[Varminterror]

Forster handheld neck turner is great. RCBS TrimPro with a neck turning head is faster, and great. 21st Century neck turning lathe is the cat’s meow, but not cheap. The RCBS is cheap enough, I would recommend it. I have various heads for mine to speed up my brass prep, neck turners and 3 way cutters plus a power adapter really makes quick work of prep.

 

[troy fairweather]

Forster handheld neck turner is great. RCBS TrimPro with a neck turning head is faster, and great. 21st Century neck turning lathe is the cat’s meow, but not cheap. The RCBS is cheap enough, I would recommend it. I have various heads for mine to speed up my brass prep, neck turners and 3 way cutters plus a power adapter really makes quick work of prep.

thanks for the advice i may just see about a .321 neck reamer for the chamber then i can shot factory 7x57 if needed

 

[Varminterror]

I go back and forth. Since I have the gear, I prefer to neck turn. But it did make sense to me, for much of my life, to run a no-turn chamber neck.

 

[LoonWulf]

To my knowledge, nothing has changed for the Nosler/Winchester CT relationship.

ETA: one thing I might mention, the CT BST’s are violently explosive, like the NBT’s. The NAB’s stay together. I’ve hunted the CT BST’s for over 20yrs, I’ve recovered a lot of separated jackets and shrapnel from game. Very effective when placed well, like a bunker buster for whitetail vitals. But it’s not a deep penetrator, and many guys would consider what I have seen from them to be bullet failures.

I used the 150CTs In my 7mag early on, and 165s in my .30-06 off and on for a while, and that has been my experience as well.Plenty of penetration to get the job done, stupendous damage to boot, but don't shoot a North bound critter in the south end.
Most of what Ive shot tho is 150-200lbs at the heaviest.

Again tho, as you can see from what I've tried and like, squishy bullets are kinda my thing.


I tried the Lyman neck turning head for their cheap trimmer, I couldn't make it work right, but I can be kinda an idiot and didn't play with it overly long.....figgured I'd toss that out as it's probably the cheapest option you'll find

 

[jmr40]

If you want to shoot better bullets on a budget look here

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shooters-pro-shop.html

You just have to check in to see what they have. They advertise them as cosmetic blems and sell them significantly cheaper. The last ones I bought came in a plastic bag instead of a regular nosler box.

Some products. They aren't showing a lot of 7mm options currently, but inventory changes often.

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shoo...ccubond-long-range-7mm-168gr-blems-100ct.html

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shoo...mm-150-grain-ballistic-tip-over-run-50ct.html

I don't shoot 7mm currently, but the Hornady ELD-X bullets in 6.5mm and .308 calibers have performed very well for me and the price is reasonable.

 

[troy fairweather]

I used the 150CTs In my 7mag early on, and 165s in my .30-06 off and on for a while, and that has been my experience as well.Plenty of penetration to get the job done, stupendous damage to boot, but don't shoot a North bound critter in the south end.
Most of what Ive shot tho is 150-200lbs at the heaviest.

Again tho, as you can see from what I've tried and like, squishy bullets are kinda my thing.


I tried the Lyman neck turning head for their cheap trimmer, I couldn't make it work right, but I can be kinda an idiot and didn't play with it overly long.....figgured I'd toss that out as it's probably the cheapest option you'll find

my dad killed a buffalo american bison with the 150 ct 7wsm savage striker pistol one shot in the boileroom

 

[troy fairweather]

If you want to shoot better bullets on a budget look here

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shooters-pro-shop.html

You just have to check in to see what they have. They advertise them as cosmetic blems and sell them significantly cheaper. The last ones I bought came in a plastic bag instead of a regular nosler box.

Some products. They aren't showing a lot of 7mm options currently, but inventory changes often.

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shoo...ccubond-long-range-7mm-168gr-blems-100ct.html

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shoo...mm-150-grain-ballistic-tip-over-run-50ct.html

I don't shoot 7mm currently, but the Hornady ELD-X bullets in 6.5mm and .308 calibers have performed very well for me and the price is reasonable.

thanks for the link.

 

[troy fairweather]

If you want to shoot better bullets on a budget look here

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shooters-pro-shop.html

You just have to check in to see what they have. They advertise them as cosmetic blems and sell them significantly cheaper. The last ones I bought came in a plastic bag instead of a regular nosler box.

Some products. They aren't showing a lot of 7mm options currently, but inventory changes often.

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shoo...ccubond-long-range-7mm-168gr-blems-100ct.html

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shoo...mm-150-grain-ballistic-tip-over-run-50ct.html

I don't shoot 7mm currently, but the Hornady ELD-X bullets in 6.5mm and .308 calibers have performed very well for me and the price is reasonable.

o they have noslor accubonds 160 partions 160s and 140 partions all under $20 for 50 blems i have some 140 partions about 20. the 7mm guys can help be for my ai

 

[eastbank]

I killed a pile of deer in my youth with a cut down open sigthed(semi-sporterized) 98 mauser in 7x57 with 154gr Hornady round nose bullets at 2400 fps.as the years went by I go on magnumits bus and rode it for many years, tho 95 % of the animals I have killed in the last 60 years would have fallen with that load.

 

[troy fairweather]

I killed a pile of deer in my youth with a cut down open sigthed(semi-sporterized) 98 mauser in 7x57 with 154gr Hornady round nose bullets at 2400 fps.as the years went by I go on magnumits bus and rode it for many years, tho 95 % of the animals I have killed in the last 60 years would have fallen with that load.

seems like rn bullets are of the past. i love them but harder to find. and i dont have the cash for $60 norma bullets. now hornady is not making the 7mm 175 rn no more. they relay seam to help in the woods not that im shooting in to bushes to hunt deer but good for that small branch u did not see in your sights. thanks for the info sir.