Bump Firing
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Cromlech
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SDC
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Why not just throw the ammo in a fire instead?
The website:
www.LifeLibertyEtc.com
has several videos about 'Bump Firing' in their "Range Bag" section. They demonstrate bump fire with and SKS, a US Rifle Cal .30 M1, and an AR-15 type.
Not very accurate, but a quick way to turn cash into noise & smoke.
www.LifeLibertyEtc.com
has several videos about 'Bump Firing' in their "Range Bag" section. They demonstrate bump fire with and SKS, a US Rifle Cal .30 M1, and an AR-15 type.
Not very accurate, but a quick way to turn cash into noise & smoke.
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tinygnat219
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One of the stupidest, unsafe ways to hurt yourself.
If you want a select-fire weapon, get one and do the associated paperwork. Bump-firing is stupid, unsafe, and will eventually hurt you, or other people. I have problems with people using firearms in unsafe manners.
If you want a select-fire weapon, get one and do the associated paperwork. Bump-firing is stupid, unsafe, and will eventually hurt you, or other people. I have problems with people using firearms in unsafe manners.
Big Calhoun
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First time I've head of 'bump firing'. After watching the video, I gotta say, that looks more like a gimmick or stunt. What is the practical (useful) application of bump firing?
crazed_ss
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It seems to be just a trick to impress friends... also it might be effective in making everyone at the range look down the line with a "OMG MACHINEGUN!" look on their face.
High Planes Drifter
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With thumb, go thru the trigger gaurd in front of trigger; hook beltloop with said thumb. With other hand on rifle foregrip, pull rifle forward ; the trigger will come in contact with thumb. Keep pulling forward till the shot is fired. Recoil will bring rifle back, you keep pulling forward. Adjust pulling tension till you get the rythm/rate of fire you are looking for.
edited to add: I dont do this anymore, but I actually did "bump fire" my 1911 once!
edited to add: I dont do this anymore, but I actually did "bump fire" my 1911 once!
1911 guy
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Bumping a 1911?
Could come in handy if you ever got in a barfight with a boatload of zombies. Sorry, couldn't resist. Anyhow, here's my honest to goodness opinion. Go somewhere and rent a full auto someday. The novelty will wear off in about five minutes.
Here's my "rapid fire handgun" story. I took a class some time back and trigger management was a big part of it. I've always taken my finger foreward off the trigger slightly after each shot, but the drill we were doing involved breaking the shot off and returning the trigger to reset without losing contact. We did it slowly for a few mags until everyone got the hang of it. Then we were to do it quickly and my Zen Moment occured. I got four shots into a B-27 at 15 yards in a fraction of a second. The result was similar to bump firing, but from an isocolese stance. Much smiling on the inside going on. .45 ACP is too pricey to blow it like that on a regular basis, but I do have to admit that it got me to thinking about trigger discipline in a SD scenario in a whole new light.
Could come in handy if you ever got in a barfight with a boatload of zombies. Sorry, couldn't resist. Anyhow, here's my honest to goodness opinion. Go somewhere and rent a full auto someday. The novelty will wear off in about five minutes.
Here's my "rapid fire handgun" story. I took a class some time back and trigger management was a big part of it. I've always taken my finger foreward off the trigger slightly after each shot, but the drill we were doing involved breaking the shot off and returning the trigger to reset without losing contact. We did it slowly for a few mags until everyone got the hang of it. Then we were to do it quickly and my Zen Moment occured. I got four shots into a B-27 at 15 yards in a fraction of a second. The result was similar to bump firing, but from an isocolese stance. Much smiling on the inside going on. .45 ACP is too pricey to blow it like that on a regular basis, but I do have to admit that it got me to thinking about trigger discipline in a SD scenario in a whole new light.
Henry Bowman
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If this really interests you, go to http://www.firefaster.com and look at this product. It is a rifle stock and linear motion assembly that allows the action to slide within the stock (spring bias forward) to enhance bump firing. BATF approved, but banned in two states. I saw this at Knob Creek last month an spent some time talking with the inventor. (US Patent No. 6,101,918) Currently it is only available for the 10/22, but mini-14, SKS, and AK models are being tested now.
romma
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Holy cow! 
How can this device be legal if a shoestring isn't? 
How can this device be legal if a shoestring isn't? Molon Labe
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I hate bump firing on so many levels. In my opinion,
- It's an egregious waste of good ammo.
- It represents of lack of respect for controlled, aimed fire.
- It's rude, boorish, and childish.
- Unless you have a huge backstop, it's not safe.
A little story:
A couple years ago a member of our militia group asked if he could bump fire his AK. I didn't know anything about bump firing, so I said, "Sure." He got a big grin on his face and proceeded to pepper half our property with bullets. I'm not even sure if he hit the backstop.
At the next training session I told everyone about a new rule when shooting on our property: No bump firing.
Flash forward to July of this year. We hosted a wedding on our property, and during the reception we shot some guns. Well, the member mentioned earlier was in attendance, and he asked if he could shoot my FAL. I said, "Sure." I noticed he was not pulling the FAL into his shoulder while shooting it , and he had a perplexing look on his face as if there was a problem with the rifle . I was concerned that there might be a problem with it, so I took the FAL from him and shot it. It shot fine for me. It then dawned on me that he was trying to bump fire my FAL so he could show off to the wedding crowd. This upset me, since I previously made it clear I didn't allow bump firing.
- It's an egregious waste of good ammo.
- It represents of lack of respect for controlled, aimed fire.
- It's rude, boorish, and childish.
- Unless you have a huge backstop, it's not safe.
A little story:
A couple years ago a member of our militia group asked if he could bump fire his AK. I didn't know anything about bump firing, so I said, "Sure." He got a big grin on his face and proceeded to pepper half our property with bullets. I'm not even sure if he hit the backstop.
At the next training session I told everyone about a new rule when shooting on our property: No bump firing.
Flash forward to July of this year. We hosted a wedding on our property, and during the reception we shot some guns. Well, the member mentioned earlier was in attendance, and he asked if he could shoot my FAL. I said, "Sure." I noticed he was not pulling the FAL into his shoulder while shooting it , and he had a perplexing look on his face as if there was a problem with the rifle . I was concerned that there might be a problem with it, so I took the FAL from him and shot it. It shot fine for me. It then dawned on me that he was trying to bump fire my FAL so he could show off to the wedding crowd. This upset me, since I previously made it clear I didn't allow bump firing.
High Planes Drifter
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The novelty will wear off in about five minutes.
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Yep. Waste of ammo. It gets old quick.
The novelty will wear off in about five minutes.
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Yep. Waste of ammo. It gets old quick.
Outlaws
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lol....it wore off before I even rented the thing......
$15 for an hour of range time, $50 to rent the gun, plus $10 per clip for their ammo.
Its cheaper than $20k for an M16, but not by much.
Watched a few videos on bump firing then tried it out with my Saiga 7.62 AK, wow, what fun! The key is to hook your thumb through the trigger guard at your belt loop and hold on! Tried out Wolf military spec coated cartridges with no misfires (500 rounds so far), a little dirty, but a good choice for high volume target ammo (AR fans will need to clean much more often) Why pay over 10K for a class 3 AK when you can bump fire!
MountainBear
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I agree with everyone else. Bump firing is dangerous. You do not have complete control of the rifle. Unless you are in a rubber kill house, then you cannot be sure where all the rounds go. This is not controlled, aimed fire. If you want to learn something, learn controlled pairs (aka "double tap"). This is safer and would be a more useful skill to have. Plus, you can still satisfy your urge to burn up ammo...
Bump firing :banghead:
Bump firing :banghead:
lycanthrope
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Bumping isn't so bad......in fact, like other forms of rapid fire you can adjust your timing to keep all the rounds in a 30 round mag on an IDPA/IPSC target at 15 yards easily. At ten yards I can keep almost all of them in the A zone with an AR15.....
Does it have any real world application...I doubt it. Is it fun?....you betcha.
Is it any more dangerous than full auto fire?........marginally so. I've seen far more rounds tossed over a backstop due to people who have never fired a full auto weapon and tried to do so. I've also seen many, many new shooters miss targets at 10 yards...trying controlled fire. I don't presume to say they have no right to their endeavors.
Really...as long as you can control the firearm and are safe you have the right to shoot it. Not all shooting is about being tactical or as an exercise in precision.
Does it have any real world application...I doubt it. Is it fun?....you betcha.
Is it any more dangerous than full auto fire?........marginally so. I've seen far more rounds tossed over a backstop due to people who have never fired a full auto weapon and tried to do so. I've also seen many, many new shooters miss targets at 10 yards...trying controlled fire. I don't presume to say they have no right to their endeavors.
Really...as long as you can control the firearm and are safe you have the right to shoot it. Not all shooting is about being tactical or as an exercise in precision.
The_Shootist
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Not Sure Why you Bump Fire
When I go to the range with about 15 30 rd AK mags loaded up, I manage to "unload" them in about 15 min. This from a sitting or prone position, no bump firing. Thats fast enough for me.
Mind you, I have to have a leather work glove on my left hand to remain comfortable
When I go to the range with about 15 30 rd AK mags loaded up, I manage to "unload" them in about 15 min. This from a sitting or prone position, no bump firing. Thats fast enough for me.
Mind you, I have to have a leather work glove on my left hand to remain comfortable
donttellthewife
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If you looking for about 450 rounds per minute on target and safe without paying for a full auto rifle , try this.
1, 1919a4 semi auto,
1, tripod with pintel and T+E
1, Emory Crank fire (or other brand)
250 rounds of linked 308 ammo (3 in reserve to share with other shooters)
Adjust and fire for effect. (tracers are even a better effect when the weather is wet)
This will turn heads at the firing range and start up a good conversation as to how much that ammo just cost you. (this is why I reload)
I think if someone wants to bump fire that's fine as long as the back stop is appropriate and any other shooters are pre warned. Once the round is fired it's wasted no matter if the bullet hits the bullseye or the dirt. As long as the shooter is safe and happy with the his or her results. Live and let live.
1, 1919a4 semi auto,
1, tripod with pintel and T+E
1, Emory Crank fire (or other brand)
250 rounds of linked 308 ammo (3 in reserve to share with other shooters)
Adjust and fire for effect. (tracers are even a better effect when the weather is wet)
This will turn heads at the firing range and start up a good conversation as to how much that ammo just cost you. (this is why I reload)
I think if someone wants to bump fire that's fine as long as the back stop is appropriate and any other shooters are pre warned. Once the round is fired it's wasted no matter if the bullet hits the bullseye or the dirt. As long as the shooter is safe and happy with the his or her results. Live and let live.
Sunray
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An AK is FA. Doesn't need to be unsafely fired.
Glockfan.45
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Wow for a bunch of people who get in an uproar when someone says civilians dont need FA, you guys sure are quick to judge bump firing . Do I think its dumb? Well sort of, I have done it once or twice just for grins but hey to each their own. Lighten up and have some fun once in awhile.
. Do I think its dumb? Well sort of, I have done it once or twice just for grins but hey to each their own. Lighten up and have some fun once in awhile.- Status
