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Damn, Krugman nails the coward-in-chief! :)




Weak on Terror
By PAUL KRUGMAN

Published: March 16, 2004



My most immediate priority," Spain's new leader, José Luis Rodr�_guez Zapatero, declared yesterday, "will be to fight terrorism." But he and the voters who gave his party a stunning upset victory last Sunday don't believe the war in Iraq is part of that fight. And the Spanish public was also outraged by what it perceived as the Aznar government's attempt to spin last week's terrorist attack for political purposes.

The Bush administration, which baffled the world when it used an attack by Islamic fundamentalists to justify the overthrow of a brutal but secular regime, and which has been utterly ruthless in its political exploitation of 9/11, must be very, very afraid.

Polls suggest that a reputation for being tough on terror is just about the only remaining political strength George Bush has. Yet this reputation is based on image, not reality. The truth is that Mr. Bush, while eager to invoke 9/11 on behalf of an unrelated war, has shown consistent reluctance to focus on the terrorists who actually attacked America, or their backers in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

This reluctance dates back to Mr. Bush's first months in office. Why, after all, has his inner circle tried so hard to prevent a serious investigation of what happened on 9/11? There has been much speculation about whether officials ignored specific intelligence warnings, but what we know for sure is that the administration disregarded urgent pleas by departing Clinton officials to focus on the threat from Al Qaeda.

After 9/11, terrorism could no longer be ignored, and the military conducted a successful campaign against Al Qaeda's Taliban hosts. But the failure to commit sufficient U.S. forces allowed Osama bin Laden to escape. After that, the administration appeared to lose interest in Al Qaeda; by the summer of 2002, bin Laden's name had disappeared from Mr. Bush's speeches. It was all Saddam, all the time.

This wasn't just a rhetorical switch; crucial resources were pulled off the hunt for Al Qaeda, which had attacked America, to prepare for the overthrow of Saddam, who hadn't. If you want confirmation that this seriously impeded the fight against terror, just look at reports about the all-out effort to capture Osama that started, finally, just a few days ago. Why didn't this happen last year, or the year before? According to The New York Times, last year many of the needed forces were tied up in Iraq.

It's now clear that by shifting his focus to Iraq, Mr. Bush did Al Qaeda a huge favor. The terrorists and their Taliban allies were given time to regroup; the resurgent Taliban once again control almost a third of Afghanistan, and Al Qaeda has regained the ability to carry out large-scale atrocities.

But Mr. Bush's lapses in the struggle against terrorism extend beyond his decision to give Al Qaeda a breather. His administration has also run interference for Saudi Arabia  the home of most of the 9/11 hijackers, and the main financier of Islamic extremism  and Pakistan, which created the Taliban and has actively engaged in nuclear proliferation.

Some of the administration's actions have been so strange that those who reported them were initially accused of being nutty conspiracy theorists. For example, what are we to make of the post-9/11 Saudi airlift? Just days after the attack, at a time when private air travel was banned, the administration gave special clearance to flights that gathered up Saudi nationals, including a number of members of the bin Laden family, who were in the U.S. at the time. These Saudis were then allowed to leave the country, after at best cursory interviews with the F.B.I.

And the administration is still covering up for Pakistan, whose government recently made the absurd claim that large-scale shipments of nuclear technology and material to rogue states  including North Korea, according to a new C.I.A. report  were the work of one man, who was promptly pardoned by President Pervez Musharraf. Mr. Bush has allowed this farce to go unquestioned.

So when the Bush campaign boasts of the president's record in fighting terrorism and accuses John Kerry of being weak on the issue, when Republican congressmen suggest that a vote for Mr. Kerry is a vote for Osama, remember this: the administration's actual record is one of indulgence toward regimes that are strongly implicated in terrorism, and of focusing on actual terrorist threats only when forced to by events.
 
The problem of this half-truth out-of-context stuff is exemplified by "Mr. Bush has allowed this farce to go unquestioned."

My own question on that little claim is, "How does he know?" Does the White House consult with him on these sorts of details? Krugman is always told about the lack of back-door questions?

Since when are mistakes in strategy or tactics "soft"? It would be one thing to say that the way we've tried to "recreate" Afghanistan has had mistakes in the "how to", but that has nothing to do with "soft on terror".

The "Saudi Airlift" was of members of the ruling clique. Al Qaeda hates them almost as much as it hates us.

It's obvious that the deal in Iraq isn't going as well as the White House would like. Trouble is, it's not going as bad as Al Qaeda and the media would want.

Art
 
that would a been more like it MB! we're gonna be bogged down for 10 years in the wrong country. Meanwhile, we up and ran from Saudi Arabia and closed all out bases to appease the Royals and Osama.
 
feh!

A combination of fantasy and wishful thinking.

George Bush's record on terrorism can only be considered weak if you include his continuing appeasement of the left. (bipartisanship?). It was the dem/libs who wanted Homeland Security made a cabinet position, for example. Then there's the embrace of illegal immigration, and failur to lock down the borders, etc., et yada. I suspect all of this is for re-election points only, and we're going to see some proactive, pre-emptive action during his second term.

In any case the President's record on terrorism is far stronger than ANY Democrat's would have been. Kerry's first action would be to surrender U.S. sovereignty to the U.N. But he's not gonna get a chance to do that.
 
where's the fantasy and wishful thinking? I'm not a Krugman fan but he's very concise. Remember, just because you don't like hearing it is not a valid reason. :)

I agree with you that Bush is weak on terrorism in respect to his border games but I don't give him a free pass just because he's pandering for votes, if fact, it's even more craven and immoral that he is weakening our borders to pander for more votes and indicitive of his moral failings to put his prospects of retaining personal political power over the lifes and treasure of his copuntryman (traitor).

Even worse, his adopted home state makes up a large portion of said border and one would suspect would be a likely tareget due to the deep ties this admin has in that state.

I won't even touch you fancilful speculation of might have happened under some one else as there is no way to know. :)
 
So what would Mr. Krugman have written if Gore was in office the last 4 years?

I dont see the Commander in Chief as a coward at all.
 
Bush has been stronger on terrorism than any president in history.

The left simply cannot have it both ways....

We are too agressive....now not agressive enough??

You are posting Krugmans raving simply because he supports your simple view...that Bush is BAD

Not because his view is based in fact.

You might as well regurgitate some of Maureen Dowds drivel

Feel free to hate our CIC...but try making your own case

I feel like W4RMA is back!
 
Had Pat Buchanan been elected, we wouldn't have these problems :D

My problem lies not so much with the President as with the weak spineless eunuchs of the Republican legislature who acquiesce to every whim of the radical left. From Bob Dole to Trent Lott and now Bill Frist these guys don't seem to know THEY ARE IN CONTROL.

Having been a voting registered Republican since 1968, I'm seriously considering re-registering Independent. But bottom line is, it doesn't matter how I vote here in PRK, the electoral votes are going to the Democrat. That goes for you too, Jonesy :)
 
The horse that produced this load must have been bound up for a week. Phew!!!
What a stinking pile of lies, half truths and distortions.
The CIC a coward? That's rich coming from a keyboard commando who feeds at the trough of liberalism and takes his marching orders from the flaccid appeasers on the left. Krugman wouldn't recognize bravery if it crawled up his pant leg and bit him on the ass.:barf:
 
So Krugman's argument is essentially that Bush is soft on terrorism and that we should vote for someone even softer on terrorism as a result?

Which party had a Presidential primary with candidates who voted against even going into Afghanistan post 9/11?

If Bush is soft on terrorism then a marshmallow must look like a diamond from where Kerry is at...
 
more claims of lies and half truths but no back up, I'm not surprised. :)

you guys are emoting like a buncha knee jerk liberals!
 
Let's posit for the sake of debate that the Republicans are weak on terrorism. Who is it that the Democrats/American Left wants us to drop the hammer on then? Or is the answer to weakness even more weakness, as we're seeing in Spain?

This is as fatuous as the Democrats attacking the GOP for "reckless spending." The spending itself is indeed questionable but the answer to it won't be coming from Democrats, who would be likely, based on their history, to spend even more. I have yet to hear any program, other than military, that the Dems would willingly curtail.
 
You swallowed this load of feces hook, line and sinker and wave it in our faces as if it's gospel. Why don't YOU provide some back up.

Krugman is a darling of the left. A professioal student most of his life and other than a brief stint working as a government economist never holding down a real job in the real world, he has the arrogance to sit on his pedestal and pontificate about cowardice and bravery. And you eat it with a spoon and tell us how sweet it is. Whatta world... somebody give him and enema and bury him in a matchbox. :banghead:
 
as yes, the old attack the messenger when all else fails strategy. surprised it took you this long!
 
Rats...I played right into the old liberal trick of crying 'victim' when confronted about taking some responsibility. It is to laugh.
 
Now who's trying to play the victim? LOL!


nice punt, comes up WAY short though.
 
Krugman is a bright guy who is also a very articulate writer. However, he has created and lives in his own little world that doesn't have that much to do with reality. IMO...
 
Polls suggest that a reputation for being tough on terror is just about the only remaining political strength George Bush has. Yet this reputation is based on image, not reality. The truth is that Mr. Bush, while eager to invoke 9/11 on behalf of an unrelated war, has shown consistent reluctance to focus on the terrorists who actually attacked America, or their backers in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

HOW DOES HE KNOW?


SIMPLE. This information has been known by our intel services for many months. In a secret report on terrorism prepared for the intelligence committee, it was covered thoroughly which necessitated a Bush-loyal insider to censor 33 pages from the report which outlined how the Saudis fund Al Qaeda. The reason that got out is a patriot on the inside leaked the content of the censored pages (which I believe is a federal offense if caught).

TIME magazine had a good article on the subject in their September 15 issue, as one of dozens of sources who have printed the truth about the saudis publicly.

That article precipitated a stunning reversal by the Bush administration when both he and Cheney admitted publicly that there has never been any credible evidence linking either Hussein or Iraq to Al Qaeda, and certainly nothing linking them to 9/11. Although the president now refrains from verbally repeating that lie, he continues to re-enforce it through his attack ads by showing bodies carried out of the WTC and linking it to the Iraq war.

Same old lie, just new packaging.
 
good thing he has his traitor commrades in thr Senate and House to protect his butt from having to pay for these high crimes!
 
You swallowed this load of feces hook, line and sinker and wave it in our faces as if it's gospel. Why don't YOU provide some back up.

The truth about the Saudis being the prime support of Al qaeda is so well documented at this point that arguing about it is akin to debating whether or not the world is flat. 15 of 18 of the 9/11 hijackers were saudis and Osama Bin laden is also a Saudi. Our own intel services have "followed the money" trail back to the Saudis, including members of their royal family. A few months back, a captured AQ operative was being questioned. When he was alone with two saudi interrogators he said something like: "Thank God. Call this number and he will give you all the money it takes to get me out of this." That number went straight to a member of the Saudi royal family.


The truth of the fact that Bush has failed utterly to make any connection between Irag/Hussein and Al qaeda lies not only in the fact that he and Cheney have made several public statements admitting it, but also in the deathly silence of anything put forth to the contrary by the admin. Bush's whole credibility as a CIC hangs on being able to link Iraq with the WOT. Do you actually think if there was even the slightest scintilla of information linking them that Bush would not be screaming it across the airways? The truth is he was forced to eat crow on that point publicly, and now he keeps his mouth shut on the subject. The last reporter who asked Bush if there was any evidence linking Hussein with Al Qaeda received a very angry:

"We can't say that."

And by reports, was barred from future press conferences. You will notice NOBODY asks him that question at press conferences any more.....
 
good thing he has his traitor commrades in thr Senate and House to protect his butt from having to pay for these high crimes!
Last time I checked, "lying" was not one of the high crimes or misdemeanors generally taken as an impeachable offense. It could be argued that his failure to act against the Saudis has cost US lives, which could be one. However, as I am sure you know, the repubs control both houses of congress so no bill of impeachment could ever be carried even if it was brought to a vote.
 
Who is it that the Democrats/American Left wants us to drop the hammer on then?
Since I have been incorrectly accused of being "left" for criticising an incompetent leader, I'll answer this: I would have dropped the hammer on the Saudis a LOOONG time ago. When Hussein invaded Kuwait and posed a direct threat to SA's northern border, Bush I sent over 500,000 of our people to defend them. I woul have let Hussein roll tanks into northern SA and then said:

"Oh...I see you could use some help. Let's talk oil and a big fat attitude adjustment."

Instead, Bush I let SA use us like a two dollar whore and when the threat has passed, they threw us off the bases we used to defend their stinking land. They also sit there fat and dumb as the Islamics inside their country funnel money to Al Qaeda who murder Americans. And when AQ kills US citizens inside SA at Kobar Towers, our government let them run a whitewash investigation to cover up the AQ connection.

You want to know who needs to be hammered? How about the country ACTUALLY supporting the people who perpetrated 9/11. But instead, Bush covers it up because he is afraid the Saudis will pinch off the oil flow and rattle our economy... which would get Bush thrown out of office. So, the big lie goes on: the saudis are our good buddies in the war on terror, and beating up on Hussein has made the world safe from Al qaeda. God help us all.
 
that was my general point. That's why we're going to see the most vicious campaign ever. If Bush loses and the Kerry people were ever to expose the level of corruption and deceit we're currently under, people will be going to jail and the GOP will have another Nixonian setback. That's why the GOP is already acting like a cornered, wounded animal. Unfortuantely, these people have proven that they cannot be trusted to put the country above their own interests and who knows what lengths they will go to to avoid the truth coming out. Fortuneately for them, I would bet that Kerry would play ball and not expose Bush in the same way that Clinton let the the first Bush admin off the hook to protect the office and the country.
 
"Stinking piles"

"Two dollar whores"

"Load of feces"

Enough. Lights out.

LawDog
 
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