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Bushmaster ACR Torture Test

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by RattleDogUSA, Jul 18, 2010.

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Would you want to see the ACR torture tested?

  1. Yes!

    131 vote(s)
    84.5%
  2. Nope, not interested.

    23 vote(s)
    14.8%
  3. Its already been done enough

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  1. RattleDogUSA

    RattleDogUSA Member

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    Hello everyone,

    My name is Matt and I'm a new member to The High Road.

    I was wondering how many people would be interested in a "torture test" involving the new Bushmaster ACR (Magpul Masada). I bought one of the first models out, but I have yet to see very much in the way of running it to hell and back.... so, I guess I'll do it! :)

    If the interest is there, what tests would you like to see? Water/sand/mud/round count/other?

    I would like to do this for my own interest and to help anyone thats hesitant on spending money on such a new (a.k.a. unproven) weapon. What I DONT want is the pointless/ignorant banter that is so common among gun discussions (ie: youtube comments on anything involving guns)

    Here's a picture of an impromptu test... NO FTF's yet! I have a short video showing the test, but I would like to conduct a much more thorough one soon....and post the results/pictures/videos for everyone to see!

    P.S. -Notice the mud in the chamber... it was EVERYWHERE!

    ******EDIT********
    Here's a short test... more to follow...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON3XLedD4_w
     

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  2. LHRGunslinger

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    Hellz Yea! I'd love to see a review/torture test of the ACR
     
  3. gondorian

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    Welcome to the High Road RattleDog! Yes torture tests would be pretty nifty.
     
  4. giggitygiggity

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    I would love to see mud, dirt, sand, and water tests. Also, a drop test would be good too. Perhaps dropping from a realistic distance like off a house or something that would happen in real-life (dropping 15,000 feet from a plane isn't realistic). Whatever other tests you have, I'd love to see.
     
  5. 15guns

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    No because SCARS are the best production 5.56x45mm rifles to date so far.
     
  6. gunnutery

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    Why not, too bad you can't get Remington to help fund the round count :). Enjoy!
     
  7. Maverick223

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    I vote for destructive testing! :evil:
     
  8. RattleDogUSA

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    My impromptu mud test should be up as soon as i learn how to post video.

    Next weekend the plan is to go out to the desert (AZ) with the ACR, a shovel, a tub of water and some safety glasses :D Yes, I will be using reloads, but that shouldn't matter. I've run 2000+ reloads through this weapon already, not a single FTF yet.....

    The next testing procedure should look something like this:

    *Fire a Pmag or two as normal
    *Submerse ACR in water and fire two round bursts, full and partial submersion between bursts.
    *Cover ACR with dirt (bolt closed, locked and loaded) and fire 5 round bursts, recovering with dirt between bursts.
    *Cover ACR with dirt (bolt closed, no mag), load mag, charge, and fire 5 round bursts, recovering with dirt between bursts.
    *Cover ACR with dirt (bolt open, no mag) and fire full mag.
    *Cover ACR with MUD (bolt closed, locked and loaded) and fire full mag
    *Cover ACR with MUD (bolt closed, no mag) load mag, charge and fire 5 round bursts, recovering with mud between bursts.
    *Cover just the bolt carrier group in mud :eek:, reassemble, and fire full mag.

    All tests will be performed in immediate succession, without any cleaning other than what I can clear with my hands. Also, for some tests (such as dirt with open bolt) I will rod JUST the barrel to clear any obstructions. That would be bad for ANY gun.

    I will not be dumping mud directly into the open bolt, as I think mud poured directly INTO the chamber of almost any gun would cause jams. However, the last test should simulate about as dirty as an operating group anyone is likely to EVER encounter, much less a civilian. I also am combining the sand/dirt tests, as AZ desert is sort of both.

    If all goes well, I will just play around afterwards and see if I can cause it to F*#( up

    I don't know yet if a drop test is worth it. What would I be testing? If it could withstand a fall? Clay pigeons sometimes survive being pulled, shot at and falling back down to earth, and those are made to shatter. At the same time, something horrific could happen ONCE that would never happen again in 100,000,000 falls. If you specify what you are trying to test, maybe we can figure out a more repeatable way of testing it.

    SCAR= an amazing lightweight rifle.
    HOWEVER,
    That was not the question I was trying to answer, and that is an unqualified statement even if I was. Now, if you would like to run a personal SCAR of yours through my same test, I welcome you to post your results alongside mine. If not, either ignore my test or keep your input to things that are constructive.
     
  9. LRS_Ranger

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    Looking forward to hearing what happens.. ;) Glad someone bought one of those things, I was going to but got fed up with it.
     
  10. gb0399

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    dont break that thing, give it to me and I'll call you if it ever FTF
     
  11. BADUNAME37

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    I think driving over it with a truck would simulate a real scenario of a truck accidentally driving over it.

    By the way, I had to study your picture as it took a little while to decipher that that is mud on your nose and not a nose ring.:cool:

    My arms were once that hairy. Then I went bald.
     
  12. giggitygiggity

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    I left that one kind of open. Good points. Thinking about it again, it would be difficult to be scientific and methodical when conducting a drop test. It's your rifle and I look forward to all your tests. This will be awesome!
     
  13. Al LaVodka

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    OMG! Huney, close your eyes -- don't look at the screen. Leave the room.

    Now, what have you done to your pretty gun!?

    ;)

    Al
     
  14. Maverick223

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    I think your right...also trampling it with a goat may approximate a real life scenario of someone accidentally trampled by a goat. :neener:
     
  15. Zanad

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    I CALL IT IF IT EVER BREAKS and op doent want to fix it......











    just kidding
     
  16. mfcmb

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    The issues of most interest to me are:

    o Is is reliable with ammo from a wide variety of vendors, particularly the cheap ones line Brown Bear.

    o Is it reliable with magazines from various vendors.

    o Is it reliable in dusty/sandy environments.

    Thank you very much for your offer to consider requests.
     
  17. RattleDogUSA

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    I will do a test with as many different types of ammo as I can, but it might be limited to a mag or two each. Not a very thorough test. Also, thats just as much of an ammo test as it is a weapons test.

    Pmags so far have been flawless, all others have been too but I don't use them enough to give them a green light yet. The only mag I have had trouble with so far is a cheap Korean Beta-C 100rder knock off that barely works with ANY gun I try it in. Not the guns fault...

    My next test will involve dry Arizona desert dirt. Although that one includes water, so I might do another one just running the gun bone dry.
     
  18. RattleDogUSA

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  19. Maverick223

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    Looks like the Shrubmaster is holding up well...looking forward to your additional tests. [​IMG]
     
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    That was pretty cool. :D

    Kinda makes me want one, now. :uhoh:
     
  22. unit91

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    RattleDog -

    A VERY hearty kudos to you for ponying up your own weapon to do the test(s)! Great attitude, great methodology, and I appreciate your donation to the gun-owning endeavor!
     
  23. Tim the student

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    I'd like to see how it does with a mag (previously tested to be a good mag) that was dropped in the mud.

    I'd also like to see how it does with a really fine (talcum powder like) sand.
     
  24. Bartholomew Roberts

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    How testing any shifts in zero/changes in group size after removing and replacing the barrel?
     
  25. BADUNAME37

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    Sure, do both, driving over it and having a goat walking on it - why not?
     
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