Bushnell Elite 3200 vs. Bushnell Holograph

[.41 magnum man]

I am thinking of getting one of these for my Ruger Blackhawk. I like the fact that the Elite scope has full eye relief at all magnifications. On the holographic site I like the fast acquisition. I'd like to hear from anyone who uses these items and how you like them. I'd also like to hear about the accuracy of the holographic sight. Out to what range would you recommend using it?

 

[GunTech]

Before someone posts something about Eotech vs Bushnell, they are both made by Eotech.

I like the Holosight where fast target acquisition is required. Since the do on Holosites is generall between 2 and 4 MOA, they really aren't suitable for long range precision work. I'd say 300 yards or less is their best operating envelope. This is handy, as that is also the typical range for infantry rifle fire.

On a handgun, I'd pick a fixed 2X as there's enough magnification for handgun ranges, it's smaller and lighter and it is more precise If you just want a dot sight on your handgun, I'd take a look at a Burris fastfire or something similar. Much smaller and lighter.

 

[S&Wfan]

Hi,

I've had a 1st generation Bushnell Holosight on my M29-5 S&W .44mag. since they came out.

Impressions?
Utterly reliable. Sights are also very precise in their adjustments and thus it provides utterly precise adjustments for silouette matches! I use the hard kicking 300 grain Federal Castcore load too, and the Holosight has never lost it's zero.

Results?
This sight has ALWAYS given me 3-shot groupings under 2" @ 50 yards from the bench.

Here's a typical target I scanned, with a 5" black center. I've found black squares are best for practicing with red dot sights . . . with a ratio of 1" per 10 yards of distance . . . hence a 5" square is perfect at 50 yards. I was testing a new batch of ammo, that shot a little to the right, when I was sighting in recently. Frankly, I haven't moved the P.O.A. yet:

In the field, I've found it to be the ultimate sight in our Georgia deer woods. I've lost count of how many whitetails have fallen to this combination.



Swinging on running, broadside deer, I've dropped 'em in their tracks many times with heart shots. BTW, I will NOT take inhumane shots and will not shoot unless I'm confindent I'll make the shot.

The sight is so fast that I've twice dropped three deer virtually as fast as I could swing and acquire a good sight picture.

NEWER GENERATION HOLOSIGHT?

I've got one of these on my Ruger .22 Target pistol. It seems to be just as reliable, only lighter. I've had this one for years too.

BOTTOM LINE . . . I love 'em! I prefer them on a .44 handgun over a scope . . . much easier to come onto target . . . and you can keep both eyes open and focused on being able to take the shot at the right time as a deer moves in deep woods.

T.

PS: Here's a STANDING, UNSUPPORTED six shot group I shot last weekend with my .44. Distance, 50 yards, and the low shot was a called "flyer." Since this day's shooting also went to the same spot, I guess I'd better tweak the sighting a little!

 

[.41 magnum man]

Thanks, guys, for the info.

Hey S&WFan, What kind of holster do you carry your gun in?

 

[S&Wfan]

Hi,

Sorry for the delay. I had to take a photo of the rig and upload it.

I carry it in a plain Jane Uncle Mike's Sidekick Size 3 for my 6" barrelled M29.

Naturally, I had to trim the holster down lower in the topstrap area to accomodate the Holosight and its mount.

I then took the strap normally used to hold the gun in by stapping down the back of the hammer, and instead extended it OVER the top of the holosight and then snapped it into place . . . thus the strap became the "holster" covering the Holosight. In the bottom photo you'll see it comes across the top of the Holosight diagonally.

Its actually a very secure set up, and I've been up and down many a deer stand, year after year without the firearm even hinting about coming out! It has also remained secure while dragging out many a deer from the woods.

My M29 came with the 4-way adjustable front sight on it, and I drifted the pins out and removed it so that its partridge blade wouldn't bind and make noise on the inside of the holster.

Thus, I can draw the holster quietly in the woods with ease.

Here's two angles of the holster, which is also on an Uncle Mike's nylon belt.

BTW, I'm left handed, as you'll see by the holster.

I'll also insert the photo of the revolver again, so you can see how much of the top of the holster got cut away. Uncle Mike's are stoutly reinforced over the topstrap too, so the holster remained stout itself.

Tom

 

[.41 magnum man]

Thanks for the pictures, S&Wfan. Did you have to do anything special to the holster where you cut it to keep it from fraying?

 

[S&Wfan]

Not yet!

It's been this way now for years. I cut into it with a sharp cutter/knife and trimmed off the offending black nylon threads. I can't recall right now, but I may have had to trim loose threads with scissors a couple of times.

Other than that, I just darkened the thick white edges of the edge of the cut-away reinforcement area black with a permanent magic marker and it was good to go!

Glad to help!

T.

 

[Travis McGee]

S&W Fan: Can you check out the EOTech/HOLOsight thread I just posted? Thanks.