CA: Dufus and Frankenstein wants to make AW ban PERMANENT! ANTI-GUN SCUM AHEAD!

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Democrats Settle On Two-Pronged Attack

POSTED: 11:28 a.m. PDT August 21, 2003
UPDATED: 3:30 p.m. PDT August 21, 2003

SAN FRANCISCO -- California's congressional Democrats urged voters Thursday to oppose the recall but vote for Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, underscoring their fears a Republican could unseat Gov. Gray Davis in the Oct. 7 election.

Meanwhile, Davis continued to fight for his job, appearing in Los Angeles with the state's most popular politician. Davis and Sen. Dianne Feinstein pressed for a permanent federal ban on assault weapons -- an issue popular with his Democratic base.

The unanimous move by the 33 members of the delegation was a formal acknowledgment that they could not count on the Democratic governor to survive the recall.

"We will strongly express our firm opposition to this misguided effort between now and Election Day and we will strongly campaign against it," delegation chairwoman Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-San Jose, said in a statement.

"In addition, we ask that after Californians vote 'no' and reject the recall, they cast a vote for Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante. We believe that whenever there is an election, Californians should always cast their vote."

Davis had sought to keep Democrats off the ballot. Once his lieutenant governor decided to run, Davis still hoped to keep Democrats united against the recall without throwing their support behind Bustamante. Aides sought to present the news in a positive light.

"We kind of look at it this way: We're all focused on the same goal, and that's defeating the recall. There's just different strategies out there about how to go about it," said Gabriel Sanchez, spokesman for Davis' campaign committee.

# Special Report: California's Recall Election
In an appearance Wednesday, Davis said that Bustamante's campaign might help him by bringing more anti-recall voters to the polls, adding the two might campaign together at some point.

"It's entirely possible that we can find ways going forward to coordinate one another's activities," he said. Davis and Bustamante have a frosty relationship and barely speak. :fire:

The move by the congressional delegation came as a new poll showed 58 percent of likely voters would recall Davis if the vote were held today, while 36 percent were opposed.

If the Democratic governor is removed, 23 percent would replace him with actor Arnold Schwarzenegger and 18 percent with Bustamante. None of the other 133 candidates topped 5 percent, the Public Policy Institute of California poll showed.

Still, not all leading Democrats were behind the Bustamante strategy. On Thursday, Feinstein split with her colleagues in Congress.

"I am not going to vote on the second part of the ballot. I am going to vote on the first part of the ballot and my vote is going to be to vote 'no' on the recall," the state's senior senator said.

The state's other senator, Democrat Barbara Boxer, is supporting the "no on recall, yes on Bustamante" approach.

The decision by the House members could increase pressure on Republicans to unite behind a single candidate. In addition to Schwarzenegger, former baseball commissioner Peter Ueberroth, businessman Bill Simon and state Sen. Tom McClintock are on the ballot on the GOP side.

Those candidates have been under pressure from some leading party members to get out of the race, and the Republican who funded the recall, U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, already dropped out.

"There may come a time where what may be in the best interests of the state is for one or more of these candidates to put their personal ambitions aside for what's in the best interest of the state, and just like Darrell Issa a few weeks ago bowed out of the race, I'm confident that if other people are in that situation they'll do what's right for California," California Republican Party Chairman Duf Sundheim said Thursday on CNN.

Davis and Feinstein were in Los Angeles to call on Congress to make its 1994 ban on assault weapons permanent. Davis has held a series of events focused on gun control, the environment, and other key issues as he seeks to shore up his support with Democratic voters.

"I fought in a war. And I can tell you straight out assault weapons are designed to do one thing: kill people and kill them quickly. So when the gun lobby says guns don't kill, people do, I beg to differ," Davis said.

Davis also said his popularity sank with the economy.

"The fact is the entire nation is going through a tough time, with a tough economy -- 3 million jobs have been lost -- and people feel that here. I feel their pain, if you will," Davis said.

Feinstein criticized Schwarzenegger over the violence in his movies.

"I'm one that believes there is too much violence in movies and that violence begets violence, and that you become a role model for someone of lesser maturity out on the street to try to imitate what you do in the movies," she said. "So I don't consider those kinds of things terribly healthy for a society."

Schwarzenegger has said he supports "sensible gun controls," including a ban on assault weapons.

Davis and Feinstein have not had a close relationship since Davis angered Feinstein in the 1992 Democratic Senate primary when he aired a television commercial comparing her to hotel heiress and convicted tax evader Leona Helmsley. Davis lost that race to Feinstein and later told her the ad was "one of the worst mistakes of my life."

But Feinstein has been one of the most vocal opponents of the recall and Davis has repeatedly expressed his gratitude.

Davis planned a second appearance Thursday, at a town hall meeting in the San Francisco area. At a first such outing in Hollywood on Wednesday, the governor took jabs at Schwarzenegger hours after the actor discussed an economic program that called for cuts but did not specify any he would make.

In Fresno on Thursday, Simon pledged not to raise taxes as part of his plan to balance California's budget, a pledge Schwarzenegger refused to make. Simon, a social conservative who lost to Davis in November, also promised to cut the size of government, support Proposition 13 and repeal the car tax.

Simon took a swipe at Schwarzenegger, who's added billionaire Warren Buffett and other big-name advisers to his campaign.

"The governor's chair has room for only one person. There's no room for committees or commissions," Simon said. Aides said former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, Simon's former boss when both worked for the U.S. Attorney's office in New York, would be campaigning for Simon.

Ueberroth offered his own economic plan this week, as did Bustamante.

Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 
Using the word scum (as I see you have done more than once) is not taking the High Road, IMHO..

BTW, my mom does not like guns, and favours some forms of gun control..is she scum?

WildcuriousAlaska
 
Thats pretty disingenuous Wildalaska.

1. As far as I know - your mom does not have political power.

2. AFAIK, your mom does not go around promoting gun control for political gain.

3. Lots of people take a "Feel good position" on various issues without running it through a coherent value system - for the lack of one or laziness or whatever. This does not make people scum in my book. It may make them ignorant or intellectually lazy or derelect as a citizen, etc. but I do not know your mom and there are so many places we can take this that are not the high road that it aint even funny. :uhoh:

These people have already taken all the AWs from CA citizens. Not content, they want to deprive me of buying one when I get to Texas. That p****s me off no end. They are clearly and definately scum.
 
BTW, my mom does not like guns, and favours some forms of gun control..is she scum?

the day that she tries to take MY guns, yes she is. Till then im sure she is a lovely woman.
 
And I can tell you straight out assault weapons are designed to do one thing: kill people and kill them quickly. So when the gun lobby says guns don't kill, people do, I beg to differ
He's right. I just leave my assault weapon up in my closet all day while I'm at work and every night I come home to find a fresh pile of bodies lying on the floor. That dang gun, one day I'm going to have to have a talk with it.
 
Sen. Feinswine: "I would call on Mr. Schwarzenegger to renounce these weapons, absolutely. These weapons bring no good to the United States of America, they bring no good to the state of California," she told reporters outside Los Angeles Police Department headquarters."

Scum? A rose by any other name...........
 
Davis lost that race to Feinstein and later told her the ad was "one of the worst mistakes of my life."


I thought the worst mistake of his life was sitting in office as Gov of Ca, doing nothing for the last 5 years and getting recalled by the people.....
 
Mark Tyson

In 1961, while at Stanford University, Gray Davis joined the Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) with a commitment to enter military service after completing law school. He entered active duty in the U.S. Army in 1967, rising to the rank of captain while serving in Vietnam in 1968-69. In Vietnam he earned the Bronze Star for meritorious service. He is a life member of the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

So he knows all about guns killing by themselves. Mine must be defective as they each require someone to feed, aim and pull trigger. Maybe he's talking about those "Smart Guns" I hear so much about. Can they really Train them not to assault anyone?

What a quagmire CA politics is. I couldn't believe it when Ronnie Pops was elected or Jerry Brown, but in a way, it all makes sense now.

What are the odds that the masses that do vote will cast their votes for the Terminator?

Adios
 
"Assault weapons" are fairly handy in California if you're a Korean shopkeeper in south central Hell.A. Or if you're the cops and you need a local gun store to provide the stopping power required to take out a couple of bank robbers.
 
Hey, Senator Feinstein !

I really would like to listen to what you say, but I'm somewhat distracted by the handgun on your hip. You know, the one you don't want anyone else to carry.

Senator Feinstein, do you have a state or federal permit? If its a federal permit, what agency issued it? One other question. Does anyone on your staff carry a handgun?

Just interested.
 
Only thing good is that Feinstein is now voluntarily associating herself with a politician with a 70% disapproval rating. :) And does Red Davis's hair hat use velcro or snaps to strap on? It is one sweeeet wig. Just curious...
 
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