California Ammo Tax

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The following is an article received from The Outdoor Wire, an electronic newsletter for outdoor writers. If you live in California, you should be contacting your elected representatives ASAP.

"The Pasadena, Calif., Star-News reports in its Sunday, June 1, 2003 issue that the California State Assembly is considering a "sin tax" of ten cents per round on all ammunition sold in California. A "sin tax" is a tax levied on activities that legislators consider to be harmful to society. Other activities paying "sin taxes" include smoking, drinking and gambling.
The California Assembly's Appropriations Committee passed AB992 last week, and it appears headed to the floor for a vote. According to the bill's sponsors, it would raise money to help reimburse shooting victims and help pay their health-care costs. Both academics and firearm enthusiasts describe the concept of a "sin tax" as another attempt by legislators to force their personal values of "right" and "wrong" onto taxpayers. In the Star-News report, Dan Palm, a political science professor at Azuza (CA) Pacific State, says the concept of a "sin tax" victimizes politically unpopular minority groups, and in the cases of smoking, drinking and gambling, forces the government to become fiscally dependent on behavior it's supposed to be discouraging.
Plus, Palm says, sin taxes put legislators in the position of determining right and wrong. "Once you start doing that," he says, "the government becomes something above and beyond what the American founders thought it should be."
The bill's author, Assemblyman Mark Ridley-Thomas, says ammunition qualifies for a sin tax because "guns are even more harmful to society than tobacco and alcohol. Alcohol and cigarettes are not, by design, made to do harm. Guns are."
Should this bill pass, it would increase the price of a 50-round box of ammunition by five dollars per box, i.e., a $9 box of ammunition would increase to $14 per box.
Gun lobbyist Sam Paredes, executive director of Gun Owners of California, said 99.99 percent of all bullets are used safely and legally. But, Paredes said, AB 992 unfairly blames gun owners for all firearms-related injuries."
 
Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? A "sin" tax? Give me a break. :barf:

GT
 
The phrase "Sin tax" is absolutely laughable !:scrutiny: It also show what the future holds for us serfs err uhh citizens :rolleyes:

I would also like to add that Mark Ridley - Thomas is a friggin' RETARD ! But that would be insulting retards everywhere.............
Sorry Ya'll :D
 
Carlos,

There's hope for Ridley-Thomas yet; after all, he's discovered that guns are designed to do harm. There's no telling how far this man can go.:D

I've got a whole City Council full of these cretins!
 
Longeyes, :-0 I should give him credit for making such an astounding observation............ my bad..... :)


it would raise money to help reimburse shooting victims and help pay their health-care costs.
This part troubles me. I assume Mr. Ridley-Thomas KNOWS exactly who he would be helping. :rolleyes: mostly CRIMINAL victims of gunshots? Yathink?

Both academics and firearm enthusiasts describe the concept of a "sin tax" as another attempt by legislators to force their personal values of "right" and "wrong" onto taxpayers
Another worthless bit of Mommystate idealism.

And Finally:


says the concept of a "sin tax" victimizes politically unpopular minority groups, and in the cases of smoking, drinking and gambling, forces the government to become fiscally dependent on behavior it's supposed to be discouraging.

We have a WINNER ! WOW, how very difficult is this to comprehend....................????:rolleyes:
 
Does the fact that this is referred to as a "sin" tax violate the supposed separation of church and state inherent in the 1st? :D

If so, can I get the ACLU to sue to protect my rights as a pro-RKBA agnostic? ;)
 
I'm not a Californian, but. . .

I couldn't help but write a brief note the first time this came up (as the nickle tax) - so feel free:

To: Senator Don Perata, (D) Oakland
April 1, 2002
Re: Nickel Tax proposal


What a wonderful idea, Senator!

You'll want to read this, to have all the unbiased and referenced facts at your fingertips, to be able
to responsibly answer the dissenting (and even vitriolic) e-mail this idea is sure to precipitate:

http://web.archive.org/web/20010602091706/www.2ndlawlib.org/journals/tennmed.html

And you'll want to have a detailed understanding of your constituent's opposing views and
attitudes, yes?

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/Mancus/liberty.asp

After all, the last thing you want is for Oakland, specifically, to have commensurate crime rates to
Vermont:

http://www.dps.state.vt.us/cjs/crime_00/statewide.html

Just think of the thousands (and more!) of people who will embrace the idea, sharing your idea of
a truly gun free society:

http://www.visi.com/~mad_prophet/articles/rkba/other/mp000001.html

There's nothing like reality, is there, Senator?

The truth is out there, on this wonderful internet, and I, along with tens of millions of responsible,
law-abiding gun owners will delightedly and compassionately and tirelessly do our very best to
simply present methodological and conscientious counters to you and all your like-minded public
servants.

Sincerely;
Trisha Marie Neimi
Life Member, Gun Owners of America
 
Longeyes, I think if you look at the text of the bill it also includes the tax on out of state ammo purchases. Also the article doesn't really tell it like it is, like a $50 dollar tax on a $10 box of 22's or a $100 tax on a $20 box of primers. I have to tell I'm really getting tired of being treated like a leper just because I own firearms. As for Ridley-Thomas maybe he should try cleaning up his own neighborhood in L.A. instead proposing crap like this as if the gangbangers give a damn about firearm laws. Mark
 
I can hear the siren song of Oregon, Arizona, and Nevada border towns singing, "Black market bullets to California" even now.:evil:
 
I have a fantasy involving California.
One day in the future, after all our brother gunowners have moved away, SHTF comes in Kali.
A cry goes out to all the patriots of the nation.
California needs our help.
The response?
"Sorry, but our high capacity magazines and assault weapons are illegal in your state and we can't afford to pay your ammunition tax. We'll have to sit this one out."
Wouldn't that be a shame?:neener:
 
I imagine the result of this mind-numbingly dumb legislation will be for most gun owners in CA to buy their ammo online out of state. I sure as ####fire would.

CA gun owners (law-abiding, that is), you have my condolences. May I suggest Virginia as a more gun-friendly place to live?
 
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