California homicides dwarf Iraq deaths

[Desertdog]

California homicides dwarf Iraq deaths
State lost 2,394 to murder in 2004 compared to 905 coalition lives
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47680


Recently released crime statistics show the homicide rate in California is 265 percent higher than the death rate suffered by U.S. and British military personnel in Iraq.

According to the report "Crime in California 2004," compiled by California Attorney General Bill Lockyer, there were 2,394 reported homicides in the Golden State last year. That compares with 905 deaths of coalition forces in Iraq, chiefly Americans and Brits, during the same time period.


A monthly average of 75 deaths of American and British forces has remained fairly constant over the last two years.

The peak for homicides in California was in 1993, when there were 4,095 reported.

Such comparisons have been made by defenders of the action in Iraq, who say the number of casualties for a war of this length are extraordinarily low.

Opponents of the war claim the lives of the 2,000 Americans who have died since the initial invasion have been lost in vain.

Opined Toula Foscolos in the French Le Magazine: "More than 2,000 Americans have left their lives [in Iraq], thanks to the conniving and self-serving ways of their dim-witted president."

 

[R.H. Lee]

According to the report "Crime in California 2004," compiled by California Attorney General Bill Lockyer, there were 2,394 reported homicides in the Golden State last year. That compares with 905 deaths of coalition forces in Iraq, chiefly Americans and Brits, during the same time period.

Uh, dude, California has a population of 30 million. There are, what, maybe 200,000 coalition forces in Iraq?

 

[Novus Collectus]

There are about 150,000 American troops over there and in a city of 150,000 in America with a number of 6-700 murders would be a travesty.

Population of Iraq: 26,000,000

Population of California: 34,000,000

Number of murders in California: 2,394

Number of homicides overall in Iraq: tens of thousands

 

[R.H. Lee]

Lockyer's setting up for another gungrab.

 

[Standing Wolf]

Lockyer's setting up for another gungrab.

Yeah, and the sun's probably going to rise in the east tomorrow, too.

 

[Aquaholic]

I don't see any other option. It's time to pull out of California.

 

[meef]

Uh, dude, California has a population of 30 million. There are, what, maybe 200,000 coalition forces in Iraq?

Yeah...so? I was under the impression that we are at war in Iraq. Are we at war in California also? Apples and oranges, I'd think.

I don't see any other option. It's time to pull out of California.

I like it. Excellent suggestion. The sooner the better.

 

[Gordon Fink]

Desertdog, you’ve been around a long time, but may I recommend the search function? Yours is at least the third thread today that repeats this amusing but inaccurate comparison. Its variants have also traveled up and down the High Road for the last two years.

~G. Fink

 

[Silver Bullet]

Yeah...so? I was under the impression that we are at war in Iraq. Are we at war in California also? Apples and oranges, I'd think.

+1

 

[longeyes]

Yeah...so? I was under the impression that we are at war in Iraq. Are we at war in California also? Apples and oranges, I'd think.

Apples and oranges, yes.

Are we at war in California? Yes.

 

[LAR-15]

I don't see any other option. It's time to pull out of California.

Wonder when Nancy Pelosi will call for that?

 

[triggered_angst]

what went wrong?! California's in a pandemonium...

 

[wolf]

CA at war...say it aint so..few really believe it..many wont believe it...when i tell folks about the "shootings" and gang activity in the seaside town of santa monica..the reply is..that cant be true, its not on the TV news and have not seen it in the LA Times..

if only the LA Time were reality..

my signature seems very real

wolf

 

[Double Naught Spy]

The California and US/British deaths numbers are in no way relevant to one another and so the comparison is bogus. WNDN is a POS news source.

Let's see, how many US and British troops are there currently in Iraq right now versus the 36.5 million people living in California? According the the CIA World Fact Book, http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/rankorder/2119rank.html , that makes California some 10 million people more numerous than Iraq without the addition of foreign troops.

California is about 10K sq miles smaller than Iraq, but has 10 million more people, so there is a much higher number of people per square mile in California than there is in Iraq.

California numbers include people on both sides of a conflict. The Iraq numbers fail to include the number of Iraqis and/or insurgents being killed.

American and British Soldiers are in a military conflict, but they are wearing body armor. Californians do not wear body armor like that found in the military.

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

What do you expect from worldnetdaily.com?

 

[CAnnoneer]

If most murders in Cali are gangs offing each other, then how is that a problem? If anything, that should be a stimulus for less gun regulation, so long as the trash strictly take each other out. Every dead gangman is one less scumbag for us taxpayers to support at $ 55k yearly.

 

[kage genin]

If most murders in Cali are gangs offing each other, then how is that a problem? If anything, that should be a stimulus for less gun regulation, so long as the trash strictly take each other out. Every dead gangman is one less scumbag for us taxpayers to support at $ 55k yearly.

+1 CAnnoneer
Brings up a good point. All of the gun laws in CA are having the unintended consequence of taxpayers' money being used to support crime. Or <tinfoil hat on> is that an INTENDED consequence of CA gun laws?

If it were possible, I'd like to see the gang-infested parts of LA County walled in. Then we could throw free ammo over the wall. Give it a few months to clean itself out

 

[Geno]

These numbers are both small and expected. You really "wanna" be shocked?

Go investigate the following mishaps:

1) How many surgeons "murder" paitents in the operating room each year.

2) How many surgeons "fix" the wrong body part.

3) How many surgeons or others "forget" to take out all the indtruments before closing the "victim".

Last I looked, there were some where around 100,000 surgical mishaps (DEATHS) per year. Perhaps we should have the police conduct a "safety check" and register surgeons' scalpo and brains.

Lastly, let's revisit how many people with CCWs commit crime each year? And how many crimes have EVER, throughout the history of logging a copy of the spent cartridge, have ever been solved due to storing that cartridge? The answer to that is ZERO! Nada. None. Never. No where. By nobody. So, what do they do it?

Common sense died in the 1920s.

Doc2005

 

[CAnnoneer]

Or perhaps we should also consider the maniacs and dolts armed with deadly weapons (cars) that kill themselves and others out of sheer stupidity, drunkenness, etc. on the road every year...