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Californians that swore not to buy handgun again...

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by 10-Ring, Jan 8, 2003.

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  1. 10-Ring

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    8 days into the new year, how is your resolve? I ran into a guy today that swore he wasn't buying another handgun...his pick up date is the 14th :rolleyes:
    Anyone else off the wagon already?
     
  2. Sactown

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    Heh, would like too, but the cash flow or lack of it is hindering the collection. BTW: Called DOJ and they're revising the residency requirement so a wider range of documentation can be used to establish residency.
     
  3. Lone_Gunman

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    I have not been keeping up with foreign news lately, what has happened in California?
     
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  4. Plan-B

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    I'm very interested in finding out what documentation they're now going to include to prove residency.
     
  5. J.Gillespie

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    Im not a Californian but I'm close

    I have been saving my tip money for a new couch for when I move into my new house in a few months. Well, that's the way it was supposed to go.....looks like I will be buying myself a new G36 instead. The floor isn't THAT hard anyway. :D

    "Hi, welcome to my home. There's a nice spot on the floor in the corner to sit but HEY! look at my G36!"
     
  6. SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI

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    Since the last gun I bought before the deadline was a 1911, I don't really need anything else. My resolve is holding just fine.
     
  7. 4v50 Gary

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    I never swore never to buy another handgun. Guess I'll buy a Glock compact this year. May buy a rifle action too.
     
  8. Kahr carrier

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    Why stop ?? Thats what Sarah Brady wants you to do.:neener:
     
  9. BerettaNut92

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    How can I stop with the P2000 on the way?
     
  10. AZFred

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    Well, I swore I wouldn't buy any more in this ridiculous state,

    but I just can't help myself. My resolve faded about a week ago when I looked through one of the gun rags at some pretty pieces. Guess I'll just have to suck up, pay my money, and take the new test... :D

    Of course, I feel good knowing that once I take this test, I will a much safer gun owner! :rolleyes: :cuss: :rolleyes:
     
  11. bountyhunter

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    If we don't buy any more guns, that means they won.

    We have met the enemy, and they are us.
     
  12. Duke of Lawnchair

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    I couldn't agree with you more.

    I'm stopping by my local dealer next weekend to puchase a new "toy".
     
  13. Frohickey

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    Nope.

    I'm an oak. I will never buy another handgun in ********** where I have to submit myself to a thumbprint.

    Besides, buying a handgun would cut down on the downpayment of another kind of gun the antis don't want me to have... a 50BMG!!! :D
     
  14. larryw

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    Already have.

    Thumbprint? They got that when I got my driver's license; silly using that as an excuse to let Feinstein/Boxer/Davis/Brady/O'Donnel win.

    But downpayment for a 50 is a valid reason to wait. :D
     
  15. Beren

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    Maybe Pelosi will force the CA DOJ to accept Mexican ID cards as valid proof of ID, like she's doing elsewhere.
     
  16. Airwolf

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    Commencing January 1, 2003, no handgun may be delivered unless the purchaser, transferee, or person being loaned the firearm presents documentation indicating that he or she is a California resident. Satisfactory documentation shall include a utility bill from within the last three months, a residential lease, a property deed, or military permanent duty station orders indicating assignment within this state, or other evidence of residency as permitted by the Department of Justice. The firearms dealer shall retain a photocopy of the documentation as proof of compliance with this requirement.

    That's it. There are no execptions allowed. What this does is prevent a roomate, BF/GF living together, adults living with their parents from purchasing.

    Oh, you still need a valid California DL since they use the mag stripe to register your firearm in Sacramento. Great, huh? The DL doesn't count as proof of where you live but is still mandatory.

    It's just a steaming pile of BS to annoy people enough not to purchase. Again, if you let the "smell" keep you from the gunshop, they they've won, pure and simple.
     
  17. Jackanape

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    I thought I wasn't going to purchase another handgun because of the thumbprint business. This all changed on the 4th when I bought an IAI M1 Carbine, and I was informed that the thumbprint, and proof of residency requirement applied to ALL firearms purchases, not just handguns. I couldn't believe it, so I checked out the CA DOJ website, and sure enough, it's true. Well, the fat's in the fire I guess. As long as I had to submit a thumbprint for a rifle, I may as well buy more handguns. In fact, I'm going to step up my firearms purchases this year, as I can't be too sure that the brain trust in Sacramento won't pass some even more draconian laws next year...
     
  18. bad_dad_brad

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    larryw,

    Honestly, they take your thumbprint in CA to get a drivers license? What, are you a criminal if you want to drive! That is just insane.
     
  19. Shane

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    Are you sure?

    I know the thumbprints are required for long guns. But, when I looked at the DOJ site, it only mentioned handguns as needing "proof of residency". Did they recently add long guns too?
     
  20. Airwolf

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    Effective January 1, 2003, requires each person taking delivery of a firearm from a firearms dealer to provide his/her right thumbprint on the Dealers Record of Sale form (PC 12077).

    Effective January 1, 2003 requires each firearms dealer delivering a handgun to obtain proof of residency from the handgun recipient. Satisfactory proof of residency may include a utility bill from within the three months prior to the delivery, a residential lease, a property deed, military permanent duty station orders indicating assignment within this state, or other evidence of residency as permitted by the DOJ. The firearms dealer is required to retain the residency documentation as proof of compliance. Failure to comply may result in removal of the firearms dealer from the Centralized List of Firearms Dealers (PC 12071 (b)(8)(C).
     
  21. Shane

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    So that would suggest only handguns need proof of residency.

    I bet some dealers misunderstood the law and thought long guns need proof of residency.
     
  22. Inoxmark

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    Proof of residency

    There may have been a developement on proof of residency requirements. This is from CA DOJ website:
    That last part about government-issued documentation must be new. Anyone cares to speculate on some examples of this documentation and suggest how would an average citizen get one? No "letter from IRS" jokes, please ;)

    Now for the really fine part. Even though this law does not provide exemption for LEOs, they are still exempt:
    http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/dlrfaqs.htm#33
     
  23. Gewehr98

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    Like that's gonna put any kind of crimp on private sales...

    Civil disobedience is alive and well in the PRK. Wonder how much money the DOJ has budgeted to nip it in the bud? ;)
     
  24. Inoxmark

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    Gewehr98,
    Every law in CA apply to private party sales, since they must go through FFL dealer. Only exemption is 1 HG/month rule that does not apply to PPT.
     
  25. Gewehr98

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    Inoxmark, my posting was with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

    We all know about **********'s Draconian laws with respect to private-party transfers.

    It doesn't take the sharpest knife in the drawer to figure out how the majority of the private party transfers really occur, does it? Hence my statement about civil disobedience. :cool:
     
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