can an individual still ship live ammo to another inividual?

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I have shipped live ammo with UPS ground, last year, Is that still allowed. I have the ORM-D lables to stick on. Have to take to a major UPS service center. FedX In Fort Worth dont allow.

Got some ammo i will post on gun broker and dont want to have any surprises.
 
Yes i recently had a learning experience about how to ship ammo. I did it through fedex. I had to make a fedex account and I had to print out the shipping labels and then fedex came to my door to pick it up. The only problem was, they came a day late. I had already dropped it off at the nearest fedex location. And yes I had to use the ORM-D labels also. The best part was that nobody that I spoke to at fedex seemed to know much about the process. Oh and make sure the ammo is in ammo boxes. Good luck, I hope your experience goes smoother than mine did.
 
thanks jon86 .. Fed X here will not deal with ammo at all . And yes my experience at the FedX center was discouraging. When to UPS and everyone was helpful and knew what to do. That was a year ago. Hope nothing has changed. Could be difference by state in addition.
 
I've shipped ammo FEDEX quite a bit. Get your own account, print your shipping label, drop it off. They don't give me any hassle.
Boxes can be labeled with ORM D stickers, or you can just write it on the box and draw a box around it.
Beware that there are some places in the US that you cannot ship ammo to. I usually go to one of the big suppliers, and look at their list. If they won't ship there, I won't either. Might not be fair, but I don't want to get in trouble.
Here's an example:
http://www.aimsurplus.com/blog/buy-ammo
 
tackstrp:...FedX In Fort Worth dont allow.
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Sometimes it's helpful to know their tariffs (or policies) better than they do.
See the FedEx Ground Tariff (policies) here:
http://fedex.com/us/terms/express-ground/index.html
G. FedEx Ground will transport small-arms ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Hazardous Materials section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as hazardous materials. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.
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Slap an ORM-D label on the box and you are good to go.
 
thanks dogtown . may need to get some one to mail guns for me . Plano is a long way for me. Live almost in Aledo.
 
That's right. I ship ammo from time to time by Fedex ground service and I was told they would not (knowingly) accept ammo at a drop-off site. I had to have it picked up at my place so it was coming from a verified address. No problem, saved me a trip of about 20 miles. Driver came by, picked it up, and that was it.

Boxes need to be marked ORM-D and nothing else special is required. Regular rates apply. It's NOT hazardous. Fedex supplied a roll of shipping labels at no charge.
 
Small arms ammunition is NOT Hazmat, but lots of UPS people don't seem to know that. The UPS Stores simply have a blanket prohibition on ammo.
 
jonnyc said:
Small arms ammunition is NOT Hazmat, but lots of UPS people don't seem to know that. The UPS Stores simply have a blanket prohibition on ammo.
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Small arms ammunition is Hazmat and is regulated by the DOT Hazmat regulations in 49CFR. Most small arms ammunition is classed as a Division 1.4S explosive material. If properly packaged in gross amounts of 66 pounds or less, it may be reclassed as ORM-D material. It is still regulated but is excepted from many of the marking, labeling, and shipping paper requirements of other hazardous materials. That's why Hazmat charges usually do not apply.

ORM-D material are still regulated as hazardous materials. ORM-D is a DOT hazard class used for domestic transportation. ORM-D means Other Regulated Materials-D (The D doesn't stand for anything except "D".)
 
I tried to ship some ammo to my brother in law for christmas this year and both UPS and FEDEX refused to ship, stating it was 'company policy'. Yet I read on forums that people seem to do it with out any issues? When I asked how is it possible that I can have ammo delivered to me (through Cabelas) but I cannot ship it , they both said that they didn't know but it is more than likely because Cabelas is a FFL holder.
 
If you want to ship ammunition by Fedex Ground Service, call their 800 number and ask for Dangerous Goods Division. They can give you the straight poop and tell you how to open an account if you need to do that as well. They were very informed and helpful the first time I shipped ammo.
 
The D stands for domestic
and it is hasmat, just it's a small amount and shipped as excepted or something, I forget the legalese, point is, it's consumer amounts, and shippable.
 
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The D stands for domestic
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No, it doesn't stand for anything. There used to be 5 subclasses of the ORM hazard class. When the US adopted the international hazmat shipping standards under HM Docket 181, all of the subclasses except D were integrated into other hazard classes, leaving D which is mainly used for consumer commodities and a few other items such as limited quantities of small arms ammo and dry ice. It's just coincidence that it's limited to domestic shipments.

Now that everyone is really bored with this, I'll shut up now.:evil:
 
where can I get an orm-d label? I called fedex and they were very helpful as usual but the dangerous goods department closed at 7. would writing it on the box suffice? also, does it cost extra to have them pick it up at your home?

thanks!
 
ups or fedex will ship it. just label it orm-d small arms ammo and take to a depot.

the regular stores will not take it, only the depots.

I ship all the time via ups for ammo.
 
Personally, I wouldn't make a huge deal of the ORM-D labelling. I think if you plaster the box with blue ORM-D labels, it's just going to raise more concern when attempting to ship. I would just do one tiny label somewhere on the box. The ammo I have received from online vendors has usually been very non-obtrusively rubber stamped ORM-D somewhere on the box, often times having to peal back a sticker somewhere to find it.
 
All my ammo boxes have had a visible ORM-D sticker (or two) on them. No problems.

Make sure you use lots of good tape. Ammo is heavy, and with the way most things get thrown around while shipping (especially via UPS), that ammo could start tearing the box.
 
UniversalFrost said:
NavyLT.

The regulations require that the stickers / labels are on all sides and visible.
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Show us the regulation.

Let me help:
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/tex...v8&view=text&node=49:2.1.1.3.7.4.25.5&idno=49

§ 172.304 Marking requirements.
(a) The marking required in this subpart—

(1) Must be durable, in English and printed on or affixed to the surface of a package or on a label, tag, or sign.

(2) Must be displayed on a background of sharply contrasting color;

(3) Must be unobscured by labels or attachments; and

(4) Must be located away from any other marking (such as advertising) that could substantially reduce its effectiveness
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and

http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/ship/hazardous/examples/ground_ormd.html

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So, where is this requirement that you speak of?
 
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