Can anyone recommend a long gun for the car that complies with OH regulations?

[ZombiesAhead]

Ohio requires me to keep any long guns in my car "unloaded." This means that not only can no rounds be in the gun but legislation passed a few months ago clarifies that I cannot even keep a loaded magazine in the car, locked or unlocked, separated or anywhere in the vehicle. Does anyone know if a stripper clip counts as a magazine?

(5) “Unloaded” means any of the following:

(a) No ammunition is in the firearm in question, and no ammunition is loaded into a magazine or speed loader that may be used with the firearm in question and that is located anywhere within the vehicle in question, without regard to where ammunition otherwise is located within the vehicle in question.

I have a concealed carry permit and I carry a Glock 19. I have a Kel Tec Sub 2000 that takes 9mm Glock magazines. I originally planned to keep this in the car with some Glock mags and use the defense that the mags were intended for my carry piece. This new legislation makes me think that is asking for trouble.

What are some other recommendations? If I am buying a new firearm, I'm kind of in the mood to keep it evil and scary ("shoulder things that go up," standard/"high" capacity, etc) as I am currently buying into the panic over future bans. Ideally, I'd like it to take a caliber I already stock (.38sp, 9mm, 5.56/.223, 7.62x39, 12ga) Can anyone think of something evil that is not magazine fed? This may be an impossible question but I figured I would throw it out there.

 

[Oro]

Does anyone know if a stripper clip counts as a magazine?

As the technical minded know, this isn't the case. But since the law is new, that is not going to be known until LE starts interpreting it and people start challenging it. That should take a few years. Since even a stripper clip is a device to keep ammunition grouped for ready use, I would bet that it would be interpreted that way. Since they say "speed loader" - sounds like they very clearly had stripper clips in mind.

Can anyone think of something evil that is not magazine fed?

I think what you mean is "detachable" magazine fed. A Garand has a magazine, it's just permanently in the stock below the action. Likewise a Lever action - it's just tubular and below the barrel. Without a magazine, you are talking about a single-shot action, like a non-magazine bolt gun, Martini-Henri, etc.

Honestly, those seem like the two options - a clip-fed internal magazine gun like the Garand or an SMLE, or a Winchester-style lever gun. Since the clip leaves you within the grey area of the law, it seems a lever gun is your only way to rapidly load a magazine from loose ammunition (a virtue that has been praised about it for a very, very long time). There's a reason they call them "hill-billy assault rifles," you know.

 

[ArmedBear]

A stripper clip isn't a magazine, but I don't think there's a court that wouldn't rule that it is a "speed loader."

Are you sure a CCW permit doesn't allow you to keep a long gun "loaded"? Here it does, but I know that in some states it doesn't. Also, various states have Fish and Game laws that differ greatly from defensive firearm laws -- and sometimes contradict each other.