can someone please tell me what rifle this is
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Centurian22
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Well more info will definitely be needed as what is provided doesn't narrow it down much. Lol pics would be good too.
morcey2
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It's a military large-ring mauser of some sort that's been turned into a sporter. Since it looks like it has been scrubbed, it may be difficult to tell the original manufacturer.
Matt
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rcmodel
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Without taking the front scope base off and seeing what is under it anyway.
The receiver would likely be marked there.
rc
The receiver would likely be marked there.
rc
jimmyraythomason
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For purposes of getting another stock. Any stock for a large ring 98 mauser full length action will work.
Unless it's one of the large ring types of intermediate length, like a Yugoslavian.
jimmyraythomason
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If it is one of those,it would have had to have extensive action work to allow for the 30.06 springfields cartridge length.
morcey2
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Measure the center-to-center distance between the action screws. If it's 7 7/8", it's a standard length. If it's 7 5/8", it's intermediate. If it's longer than either of those, it may have been lengthened (unlikely).
ETA: The trigger guard looks like it's off a VZ-24 with the cross-hole in the front of the loop. I don't think it's totally unique to the VZ-24, but I've never seen an intermediate length action with that particular feature. If it is a VZ, it's a standard length action and one of the better ones at that.
ETA again: If you're looking to get rid of the stock that's on there, and it's not damaged, I'm interested. I have a Spanish M44 that needs one.
Matt
ETA: The trigger guard looks like it's off a VZ-24 with the cross-hole in the front of the loop. I don't think it's totally unique to the VZ-24, but I've never seen an intermediate length action with that particular feature. If it is a VZ, it's a standard length action and one of the better ones at that.
ETA again: If you're looking to get rid of the stock that's on there, and it's not damaged, I'm interested. I have a Spanish M44 that needs one.
Matt
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rcmodel
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You already have a beautiful stock with very good hand checkering, cross-bolt reinforcement, and a nice oil finish.
I can't imagine why you would want to replace it!!
rc
I can't imagine why you would want to replace it!!
rc
jogar80
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My thoughts exactly
morcey2
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My guess is _because_ that stock is so nice, he want's something else to throw on it for hunting and banging around the great outdoors. That can result in accuracy issues, though, if not done right.
Matt
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TheRyno865
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The reason I want to change your stock is that due to it being so light it kicks the fool out if me. I have s Remington 700 in 06 and the recoil isn't half that bad.
kcshooter
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Old barreled Mausers were a dime a dozen.
Nice ones, not so much.
I wouldn't touch it either.
Maybe a full-length bedding job would add some weight to it for you, or something along those lines. I'd look at a limbsaver before I would restock it.
Nice ones, not so much.
I wouldn't touch it either.
Maybe a full-length bedding job would add some weight to it for you, or something along those lines. I'd look at a limbsaver before I would restock it.
rcmodel
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Post a picture of the whole stock please.
Hard to tell if it's a stock design issue from the first photo's you posted.
rc
Hard to tell if it's a stock design issue from the first photo's you posted.
rc
Float Pilot
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Standard length M-98 Mauser action with a nice stock...With an after market two position scope safety, Probably a Bueler. It also seem to have very high scope mounts...
If you replace it with a heavier laminated stock,, I would be very interested in buying the old stock for another rifle project I am working on...
If you replace it with a heavier laminated stock,, I would be very interested in buying the old stock for another rifle project I am working on...
TheRyno865
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Float Pilot
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It sure looks a lot like a post-war Husqvarna conversion... Or maybe a late 1950s early 1960s Sears catalog rifle.
It needs shorter scope mounts and a scope that is not the same size as a rocket launcher. Something to go with the classic lines...
What does the butt-plate say on it....???
Any marking under the wood?
It needs shorter scope mounts and a scope that is not the same size as a rocket launcher. Something to go with the classic lines...
What does the butt-plate say on it....???
Any marking under the wood?
kcshooter
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Yep. Get a Limbsaver.
If you can't find a pattern to match, get a grind-to-fit. For less than $40 you'll tame the kick right out of that without having to alter the gun itself.
Also, if you got low rings, you might be able to have a better cheek weld, which may give better control of the recoil. Even with that big bell on it, that scope is near an inch away from the barrel, and I can't see how you can get correct contact with the stock like that.
Recoil becomes much more prominent when the stock is punching you in the mouth.
If you can't find a pattern to match, get a grind-to-fit. For less than $40 you'll tame the kick right out of that without having to alter the gun itself.
Also, if you got low rings, you might be able to have a better cheek weld, which may give better control of the recoil. Even with that big bell on it, that scope is near an inch away from the barrel, and I can't see how you can get correct contact with the stock like that.
Recoil becomes much more prominent when the stock is punching you in the mouth.
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JT-AR-MG42
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Like others posted, measurements and photos of the action out of the wood might help identify it.
The recoil crossbolt looks curious to me.
It could be the photo lighting, but the bolt and nut look to be brass. I don't recall seeing a bolt made like that in a rifle stock before.
Is it a good fit in there?
JT
The recoil crossbolt looks curious to me.
It could be the photo lighting, but the bolt and nut look to be brass. I don't recall seeing a bolt made like that in a rifle stock before.
Is it a good fit in there?
JT
TheRyno865
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A Limbsaver sounds like a great idea to me. Also there is nothing under the butt plate or the action, or on the inside of the stock. Also i am used to my Rem 700 so what would be a good scope and scope mount that would look good on the gun. it cant follow the 1/2 rule for the price of the scope cause i only paid $250 for the rifle.
JT- the bolt handle is steel it is just the look from the lighting and the wear on the bolt.
JT- the bolt handle is steel it is just the look from the lighting and the wear on the bolt.
kcshooter
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I'd look for something with a 38mm or 40mm objective (looks like you've got a 44mm or 50mm on there now), and I'd mount it as low as it can be mounted.
On all of my bolt actions, I require a cheek pad of some sort in order to align my eye with the scope. There are a lot of ways to raise the comb a bit, I like the ones that are retained with velcro straps, and sometimes I even have to add closed-cell foam under those to get the eyeline right.
I've seen other ways to add weight too, such as drilling a 1/2" x 3" hole or two under the buttplate and packing it with lead wool, but I wouldn't go that far until you add a good pad and get the cheekweld right.
On all of my bolt actions, I require a cheek pad of some sort in order to align my eye with the scope. There are a lot of ways to raise the comb a bit, I like the ones that are retained with velcro straps, and sometimes I even have to add closed-cell foam under those to get the eyeline right.
I've seen other ways to add weight too, such as drilling a 1/2" x 3" hole or two under the buttplate and packing it with lead wool, but I wouldn't go that far until you add a good pad and get the cheekweld right.
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It's some sort of conversion/custom. The Sears Mausers were built on commercial actions and don't have the thumb cutout.
+1.
It definitely needs lower rings to get the shooter's head in the proper position. That would help with recoil. A good pad like a limbsaver or kick-eze would help too.
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