Can you guess from these PIC's why my range session was cut short?

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Word to the wise: Get some decent sleep & pay attention at the range. These PIC's reveal an hour+ repair on one of my beloved 94's, incurred entirely due to my being an idiot. Thankfully, the .308's won't clear the ejector, and remain trapped below the chamber. Unfortunately, they fit in the mag tube just fine. Getting them back out---PRICELESS.
 

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Took 2 .30-30's, and a .308 savage.
the boxes are identical, and I was not paying attention. I am diligent about keeping only the cartrige I am shooting on the bench. One caliber at a time. I thought that is what I was doing when I grabbed that box of .308's. Boneheaded.
 
that must have been one dooohhhhh moment

No question. The case on the .308 is too fat to move above the bolt, getting stuck beneath it instead. It was a real bugger to get the round back into the mag using an allen wrench in order to get the loading gate open again, and then threading the rounds back out. Yes, I loaded more than one.
 
You didn't notice that as you were feeding the rounds that they were missing a rim?

I normally rest each round just inside the gate to hold it open for the next round, and these slipped right in w/o the rim. Even so I did not notice it. I also failed to notice the fatter case, the spitzer bullet, and the different loading on the box. Glad this is an annonymous forum.
 
Sorry Elroy.

If it makes you feel any better, my neighbor says something similar occurs when you try REAL HARD to put .22 magnum rounds in a Henry .22 LR Lever Action rifle.
 
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I once put a 3.5" 12ga shell in the tube of a 3" gun. That was a pain! I'm glad it wouldn't chamber the 308 though. That would have been bad news.
 
OH NO!

I'm glad that you didn't have any detonations in the magazine due to the pointed spitzer bullets against the next primer.

That was my first thought. I'm glad that everything worked out for you. Similar thing happened to mu range buddy Jeff. He accidentally loaded a 9mm in his .40 S&W XD. In his case it chambered and when he pulled the trigger it went boom... But not in the good way. He and his gun were fine, but the 9mm case took a cleaning rod and a mallet to remove. It looked like a reverse rifle case.
 
I thought you were going to say that you brought that nice M94 to the range to shoot along with a FN FAL. You got done blasting a few 308s down the line with the FAL and when you went to load your 94 with 32 Winchester Specials you realized you brought 30-30s instead.
 
Its pretty frustrating when you go skeet shooting and find out that you bought 100 rounds of 12 gauge instead of 20, but luckly it worked out because my friends all has 12's... I know that situation sucks though.
 
It's like me going skeet shootings with slugs. Couldn't understand why I was missing so much.
 
wrong ammo

I used to work for a guy who grabbed a 7mm mag and a box of .270s.
If it wouldn't have been a Sako I think he would have received a permanent injury.
I still have the case around here some where.
 
Don't shoot identical 30 06 and ,308 rifles from the same bench on the same day either. There are days when we shouldn't shoot or even have access to sharp objects.

RJ
 
Stuff happens. Did you know .41 Magnums will fire in .45 Colt chambers? :eek:

(wish I had kept the cases) :D

Thanks for sharing, always good to have a safety check.
 
I'm glad that you didn't have any detonations in the magazine due to the pointed spitzer bullets against the next primer.

BOOM! - POW !!

Anyone have proof that has ever actually happened? I know it's an often told story, and lots of ammo makers have used it for marketing, but I've never seen any proof of it happening.
 
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Anyone have proof that has ever actually happened? I know it's an often told story, and lots of ammo makers have used it for marketing, but I've never seen any proof of it happening.

I don't know what you would consider proof.....
Back when Benjamin Tyler Henry was working on the Henry Rifle at what would someday be Winchester, he took one rifle out to their range, loaded it up, and the recoil of the rifle ignited the rounds in the tubular magazine. The design of the Henry at this time was that it was a muzzle loader and there was a open slot along the bottom of the magazine. This allowed the force of the explosion out and other than ruining the barrel and magazine no other damage was done, and Mr. Henry was not injured.
He did, however, design what was called the ".44 Henry Flat" round from this experience.
It has also been reported that Marlin lost out on a U.S. Army contract because one of its lever rifles blew up during testing. Marlin attempted to blame it on Winchester because they were using Winchester ammunition and Marlin claimed the primers were too big.
I have read of these two incidents in books. I don't know of others ....but I would not load spire bulklets into a tubular magazine like the Win. Model 94 uses, or other similar types like Marlin makes.
There is a new type of ammo called Leverevolution .... or something like that, which have rupper tips, and which is designed for these rifles. This ammo would be OK.
But I would still avoid loading a tube fed lever rifle with spire point rounds even today.
 
Anyone have proof that has ever actually happened? I know it's an often told story, and lots of ammo makers have used it for marketing, but I've never seen any proof of it happening.

I have an article in some magazine somewhere that put this to the test, and they could not get a chain fire to occur from recoil alone. They finally resorted to rigging a make-shift chamber in a magtube, touched one off, and still only got two or three ruptured cases. No projectiles left the tube; cases ruptured without a lot of drama. Personally, I think a lead-tipped spitzer is just to soft to touch off a primer.
 
9mm thru a .40 S&W. The shooter couldn't figure out why the bullets were keyholing at 7 yards and a "gunsmith" couldn't figure out why the cases were expanded to fill the feeding ramp -- I wanted to kick the shooter off the range and it just proved what a phony "gunsmith" Bianchi was when I explained it to them after a 5 second look.

Anyway, glad no harm done AK and thanks for sharing!

Al
 
I almost shot a 9mm out of a 40. Loaded it in the mag and didn't even notice. Luckily, the 9mm jammed and it didn't chamber. Have accidentally shot 16 gauge out of my 12 gauge 870.
 
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