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Carbine Conversion Unit

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by WALKERs210, Jun 16, 2013.

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  1. WALKERs210

    WALKERs210 Member

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    Don't remember exactly how I came across this setup but it did peak my attention. From what I have seen this is a conversion that uses the lower of a 1911 or Glock to wind up with a 16" barrel Carbine. Getting ready to do an in depth search for information both positive and negative. The attached pic shows it in a basic setup and looks like you can all the bells and whistles you want

    This is link to their home page.
     
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  2. bigfatdave

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    Mine just arrived, I haven't even had a chance to unbox it with work and various family emergencies

    Reviews are few and far between, I'll likely try to make a good writeup once I have a chance to shoot it

    Be warned, the waiting list to order is quite long, although they build & ship it pretty quick once you get your order in
     
  3. WALKERs210

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    I recently sold the last 1911 I owned, but if your review is positive might have a reason to buy another 1911. Looking forward to what you think of it
     
  4. ambidextrous1

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    I've had one for about 15 years, and they are a lot of fun to shoot, and quite accurate.

    My only complaint is that my shooting pals take it away from me and tend to use up all of our range time.

    Incidentally, I had a Marlin .45 carbine for many years, and sold it a few years after I acquired the CCU.

    Don't think of this as a range report; it's just a comment from a long-term satisfied owner. :cool:
     
  5. GarySTL

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    Not trying to be a smart a**, but isn't that a pistol with a shoulder stock, regardless of barrel length?
     
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    Under federal law, if the barrel is 16" or over and the over-all is 26" or over, you have constructed a legal rifle from a pistol.
     
  7. Ed Ames

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    Legally, the current answer seems to be "no."

    T/C went through this with their contenders. If it starts as a handgun, it can be converted to be a rifle and back so long as it doesn't run afoul of the NFA rules. If it will run afoul of those rules, pay your tax stamp and wait for your paperwork, state law allowing.
     
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    They also make units for Glocks.
     
  9. bigfatdave

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    Copying an unboxing writeup from elsewhere:
    No, it is a rifle. This isn't new territory, the mechtech website has info on this as well as various discussions here and elsewhere about pistol-to-rifle conversions.
    The entire NFA system is stupid and screwed-up in a lot of ways, the initial concepts are deeply flawed. But it is pretty abvious that if you have a rifle that happens to incorporate your old pistol frame as a FCG, it is a rifle. If you take that FCG out of your rifle and re-install the old slide unit, it is obviously a pistol. The CCU with no stock meets minimum silly NFA rules, and the barrel isn't easily changed out (well, a sawzall makes everything easy, if you believe in "constructive posession"), so an unregistered NFA item isn't easily configured out of the parts on the table when you convert or de-convert.
     
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    For quite a few years ATF DID consider that putting the original parts back into your pistol receiver after having used a kit like the MechTech unit was construction a handgun FROM a rifle. And actually, it quite literally is. And that, quite literally is one of the definitions of a regulated firearm under Title II of the NFA.

    However, a couple of years back that ATF reversed itself rather suddenly and now treats the whole matter in the spirit of the SCOTUS case US vs. Thompson Center Arms, and now if you start with a handgun, you can go back and forth at will without running afoul of any federal laws.
     
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    I think that F-troop realized that their silly opinion was entirely unenforceable, myself.
     
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    Thanks for the explanation, and I certainly agree about the ATF being screwed up. :rolleyes:
     
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    you can get complete glock lowers from glockstore and gb for around 200 bucks.use higher cap mags
     
  14. BunnMan

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    Years ago a fellow I used to shoot with bought a collapsable stock that slipped into the void in the grip of most any model Glock. He also mounted a red dot sight that replaced the rear notch on the slide. The thing was a blast to shoot and would nail 1 poind propane cans at 50yds all day. These were in plentiful supply around the campsight as damn near any empty can would inevitably get tossed downrange and filled with holes. Anyway...was that little piece in some sort of violation once assembled? The stock was around $140 back then as I remember and literally just popped in and out of the grip in a second.

    -BunnMan
     
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    BunnMan, if that didn't also include a barrel over 16", then yes. He was making a short-barreled rifle. Without registering the pistol FIRST as a Title II firearm, that would be worth 10 years in prison AND $250,000 in fines.
     
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    WOW!! I had no idea, seemed harmless enough.

    Ummm...when I said it was a blast to shoot I meant that's what the other guys said...I never touched the evil little contraption. Damn Hooligans!!!
     
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