(Carbine reloading) light and fast or heavy and slow

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I just got a Hi-point 9mm carbine on a whim that I want to reload for and was just wanting some opinions from you guys with more experience than myself.

These reloads are just for fun and plinking purposes no hunting or self defence or anything so this thread is more about being a fun learning experience for me than anything else.

Basically I'm wanting to work up two new loads. One load for the Hi-point carbine and another for a Sig p226. The bullets I have on hand are both lead Missouri's. The first is (parabellum) which is their 115gr round nose with a BH of 18. The second is their (subsonic) a 147 gr. flat nose with a BH of 15. I plan on loading both using Unique and cci 500 primers.

What type of round do you think would benefit the most when reloading for a carbine instead of pistol? Light and fast or heavy and slow? Now obviously they both will gain more velocity out of a 16in barrel but what do you think would benefit more energy wise? I'm sure the lighter bullets will gain more velocity than the heavy but which would get the most performance boost? A 115gr bullet gaining "lets just say" 300fps or a 147gr bullet gaining 100fps?

I think the answer for me is to keep the 147gr. sub sonic's "sub sonic" in the pistol, and try to drive the 115gr bullets faster and keep them supersonic longer but this question is honestly more about the theory of which will get the most gain using the longer barrel.
 
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Ok thanks RC sorry I did'nt see that before.

Like I said I'm still a newbie to reloading so to make things totally clear for me, should I be using a measurement like IPSC power factor with my reloads to determine the biggest gain with the longer barrel?

power factor= weight in grains x velocity / 1000

I do have a chrony to measure my own loads but using the data General Geoff posted in that thread for an example I'm coming up with this as a gain from a 4in barrel to a 16in barrel.

Federal 115gr. JHP
115gr x 1094fps = 125.810 4in barrel
115gr x 1295fps = 148.925 16in barrel

Total gain of 23.115 with 16in barrel.

Federal Hydra-shok 147gr JHP.
147gr x 951fps = 139.797 4in barrel
147gr x 1073fps= 157.731 16in barrel

Total gain of 17.934 with 16in barrel.

So with that I'm calculating a 5.181 gain in power factor using Federal 115gr FMJ bullets over the Federal Hydra-shok 147gr JHP bullets in a 16in barrel. Does that sound right to you?
 
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I would just use energy figures.

Power factor was/is an pretty meaningless measurement used in some of the shooting games to separate the 9mm's from the .45's.

Energy is not much better, but at least it is something.

In actual fact, if you have a chronograph, use the velocity.
That is what changes to make the carbine shoot flatter & hit harder then the pistol at longer range. Your powder choice / burn rate can make a big difference in the longer barrel.

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I would have to load some of each.

Some which stayed subsonic even in the carbine because they are such a pleasure to plink with, and some high velocity loads for flatter, longer range shooting.
 
reloads are just for fun and plinking purposes no hunting or self defence or anything
Cheapest plinker route is 115 bullets. Lots of fun. You can load them from light & soft to hot, depending on what you like.
 
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