Carjacking here in NC

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Alamance County authorities say three teenagers are in custody after a man was stabbed in a carjacking. The teens were arrested Monday at a Greyhound bus stop in Wythe County, Va.
Deputies say one of the suspects flagged down a driver in Graham on Saturday, as the other suspects forced their way into the vehicle.

The driver was stabbed in the neck, back and arm, and the car was stolen, according to a statement from the Alamance County Sheriff's Office. The victim was treated at Alamance Regional Medical Center.

The stolen vehicle was recovered at a mobile home park off N.C. Highway 49. Authorities said they learned that the suspects were headed to Oklahoma, with a bus stopover in Wytheville, Va. Law enforcement officials there were contacted to help with the arrest.

The names of two suspects weren't released. Ashley Maria Anema, 16, was charged with assault with a deadly weapon inflicting serious bodily injury, attempted first-degree murder and robbery with a dangerous weapon. She was placed under a $1 million secured bond, authorities said.

This is crazy.
They interviewed the victim and what he said was the girl was flagging him down in the middle of the road. When he stopped she opened the door and the other two teens opened the other doors and they all started stabbing him. So would you hit the gas, bail out of the car, or draw your gun while being stabbed? My doors lock automatically in my truck so I would be protected long enough to get my gun out, but I think my first reaction would be hit the gas and get the hell out of there. However, would you be trick by the girl if she was saying they are trying to kill me and get out to help her just to get stabbed in the back by her? I must admit I could have been. I guess we must trust no one even if they are kids because nothing is as it appears sometimes.

By the way the girl was 16
 
but I think my first reaction would be hit the gas and get the hell out of there.
Sounds like a prudent plan.

However, would you be trick by the girl if she was saying they are trying to kill me and get out to help her just to get stabbed in the back by her?
It depends on what kind of day I’m having.

I guess we must trust no one even if they are kids because nothing is as it appears sometimes.
It’s the way of the predator, always be vigilant! ! !
 
I had an experience like that once. A woman was standing on the side of the road waving her arms. She said she and her husband were locked out of their car and kept asking me to drive them home. I told her I'd call a cab or a locksmith for her but I wasn't driving 2 people I didn't know across town :rolleyes:
 
The driver's first mistake was not to have the doors locked and keep them that way. Stopping for strangers was his second mistake but I'd be surprised if he made that one again. Better to drive away from the problem than sit around and get minced IMO, even if you scatter wayward teens all up and down the highway in the process.

There's lots of kinds of bait, and lots of kinds of fish. Pays to be careful.

lpl/nc
 
One never knows the where or when of next encounter CRSam

Firearms are only one tool in the toolbox - not the only tool in the toolbox.

The related situation is not a new one. Variations exist, "bump and run", "vehicle problems", "missed the light", even "blue light rapists" for examples.

Trust your gut always. If your gut is telling you something, listen. Distance is your friend.

Once distance is gained, and you are in safe place, use cellphone, or stop and make the First call to Report situation. First person to call LEO, gains credibilty First.

If officer sees you run a red light, backing up, bumping a vehicle, or speeding..."Officer - I was in fear of my life" - be respectful of Officer's commands, hands on steering wheel, Polite short, simple, to the point.

On the "blue light rapist". Use Flashers, drive at a posted speed limit, and find a lighted, public place - or head to a Fire Station, LEO, station, command post, substation...
 
I recall hearing in Florida that over 90% of carjackings were simply because the car's doors were unlocked and the attacker was able to run up, pull open the door, and attack the driver.

So just lock your doors WHENEVER the car is in use. That way, if someone runs up, their attempt to pull on the handle will give you the time you need to either move the car (and if possible, use tons of steel as a weapon), or if you're stuck immovably in traffic, to ready your weapon and point it at them.
 
Lee Lapin said:
The driver's first mistake was not to have the doors locked and keep them that way. Stopping for strangers was his second mistake but I'd be surprised if he made that one again. Better to drive away from the problem than sit around and get minced IMO, even if you scatter wayward teens all up and down the highway in the process.

There's lots of kinds of bait, and lots of kinds of fish. Pays to be careful.

lpl/nc

Myself, if they only had knives, and there was space to turn around...I'd hit the gas, alright, then come back and try for some speedbumps. :D
 
I stop if it looks ok , but I drive by first. Turn around & stop short of the car so you have the width of the street & a forward view. Doors locked, window cracked before you stop so you don't have to look away & I'll have my pistol generally just under my right thigh. I have practiced aqquiring it from there. I've helped a dozens of stranded people in my life, partly because I've been stranded a couple of times. Once was with my daughter & two of my sons when my daughter was 2, the boys were 6 & 7, we were on a back road with no street lights, no moon & the work crew that picked us up have my undying gratitude., we had walked about three miles & the blinking light was not getting any closer. This was before cell phones & before I had a carry permit so we were pretty helpless if some BG's decided to mess with us. I refuse to let a few BG's keep me from at least trying to help those who may really need it. You gotta be alert & ready to act.
 
Do women or girls ever flag down cars to request assistance? Don't know if I've ever seen this. I certainly wouldn't recommend such a course of action to a woman. In modern times, I can imagine an old lady without a cell phone, but not a women under 50.
 
(Wow this got long in a hurry, sorry)

I was helped with a car problem once, you have never really felt helpless until you are standing on the side of an unlighted road at night with a 3 ton paperweight. I have made the personal decision (personal because it depends on the individual, some one else may come to the conclusion it is never worth stopping) that I will help others when they are in need. I have adopted some safety techniques that while may not protect you 100%, it is a good start. I am usually on a freeway between home and school, so you may have to adopt this to different environments.

First off, I drive by, slowing down to asses the situation. Is there a visible problem (flat tire), are they attempting to rectify it (trying to change it)? Does it look like they have it under control? How many people? How old are they (the elderly, and people with young children are generally safer in my opinion)? If I get the willies, I keep driving, maybe alert the authorities that their may be some one in need of assistance if I feel it looks like they need help, but something tells me don’t stop.

I then turn around further down the road (not making it obvious to them that your doing this), repeat one if your able to see it again on this pass. Then turn around again and come back.

Pull off the road 50-100 yards before them and slow down, gauge their reaction, I usually stop with a good distance between my vehicle and theirs (15-25 yards), leave my lights on (this hampers their seeing you, and aids in your seeing them), if I have my magnetic overheads on from a SAR mission I will turn those on as well (helps in not getting hit, eases the mind of the person needing aid in most cases, but looking at them is really disorienting at night. I on several occasions at night walking in front of the vehicle, and turning around they have caused me to lose balance. Although most people won’t have these lights, if you do use them). Parking your car back further also provides a buffer if someone was to drift off the road, if I am changing a tire, and its close to the side of the road, I try and park closer to the road than I will be working.

Once I am comfortable with the situation I will usually call one of them, often whoever appears to be in charge over to me if they need assistance. One thing I keep in mind, is the fear my mother instilled in me the one time we were stranded, she was sure anyone who stopped was going to do us harm, she removed all her jewelry and put them in her shoe, and told us to run if anything happened, it scared me, and one of the things I do is make sure that I don’t scare the people I am stopping to help in any way (you can jump in your vehicle and scream off, they are stuck with no route of escape if you creep them out). If they don’t want to come over to me I will talk to them from a distance ask if they would like to me to contact the police for them. If they do come over I offer them my cell phone to call whomever they need, and make small talk about their problem. If I am comfortable with them and that I can actually fix their problem (change a tire), I offer my assistance. Otherwise I let them feel that they are in control (offer them options, don’t tell them what to do), but don’t allow myself to get into a bad situation. Remember that stopping to help some one on a busy highway is probably more dangerous from the getting smeared by a drunk/sleepy driver than by getting attacked by the people you are stopping to assist, but that doesn’t mean an attack isn’t a valid concern. Follow your gut, leave an out, and don’t hesitate to mash on the gas and get the hell out of there if the hair stands up on the back of your neck.
 
I live real close to where this happened and can't say that I would have expected it. Considering the age, I probably would have thought they were goofing off and drove on.
 
I was just in a situation last week to help a stranded motorest.
First it was a woman in her I quess 60+, daytime, bank driveway, 2005 Saab,
very well dressed ( business woman looking ). I did a drive by. Then returned few minutes later.
Then I do the following as I do when ever I offer help.
Stop 20 feet from the stranded car with a clear path to drive away.
1. This protect me by distance and me give peace of mind to the stranded person. I'm not after them.
2. Car is left running, I have all doors locked, My window rolled down about 6". My gun is in a holster mounted to my seat or in my right hand ( I'm left handed ) but I can shoot at 5'+ with my right hand.
3. Stay in the car !!! and offer assistance. ie phone call.
4. After assessing the situation. I may exit the car ( with gun replace in IWB holster ). As I did in the above case.
5. In this case I new of the family and her last name.
6. I assisted her and followed her to the Saab dealer. And after chatting with her we each learned we casually new each other.


End of story.
All end well and we drove off into the the sunset singing "Happy trails to you".

Moral: Leave space; look around; access carefully; Have a big stick errr Gun.
 
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