Carrying Concealed

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or is it that you could walk around with purple gorilla duct taped to your head and nobody would notice or comment?
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Yep, that's about it.

I took a pistol course from Tom Givens recently,and he said, "Is carrying a gun uncomfortable?...Yes. Is it heavy?... Yes. Is it inconvenient?...Yes. Am I going to do it everyday?...Hell Yes!"

I carry a Glock 19 in a Glock holster most of the time. I wear oversized T shirts when very casual, and flowered Hawaiian shirts. Never been made that I know of. On the other hand, I live in Texas, and I would be very surprised indeed if someone said anything even if they made it. When I can't carry, I always have the Glock secured in the car, and keep a Galco paddle holster in there in case I should need to put it on and take it off quickly. There have been a couple of times that I have found myself in a rough area, or in a situation that was less than comfortable when I slipped on the paddle, put the Glock in it, and pulled out my normal starched dress shirt. I used to think it conspicuous, but people just seem to think that I'm some old guy that just got off work, and got comfortable.
 
The previous posters pretty much covered it , its the frame of mind that determines whether anyone notices that your carrying or not . By the way I was 'made' by a sheriff deputy one time and the funny thing was that my holster was empty , I guess that I had been carrying so long that my automatic way of moving with a weapon must have changed . The whole incident turned into a long convo over my M&P40 and how he was wishing his dept would be changing over to them :)
 
Spinner, I carry a 1911 (in a couple of sizes) and have no problem concealing (invisibly I dare say) in a longer tshirt and shorts/jeans, etc., thought I normally go for a square bottom shirt worn untucked or similar.

The 1911 is a large firearm you're right, but it's very thin relatively speaking, and conceals superbly because of it. Of course, a good belt and holster makes all the difference in the world, particularly with heavier pistols like the 1911. With my Milt Sparks W6 or VM2 and one of my Wilderness belts, I can carry comfortably 12+ hours with no problem, fully concealed and nothing out of the ordinary in appearance, even with normal movements like bending down or reaching out for something.

(I easily made an off duty officer recently in a resturant-he was trying to conceal a Glock under a law enforment tshirt and it didn't work too well for him. No one else noticed, but hey, I carry concealed myself so he stuck out very well to me, and he was printing. He saw me noticing too, and started to check himself for printing and asked his wife to do so too....he didn't seem to find anything out of the ordinary and kind of shrugged his shoulders to her and they went on thier way. Go figure.)

Chris
 
Well, I am a big guy, so its pretty easy for me to hide a small pistol on me without others noticing. Bigger pistols present a bigger challenge, so I personally don't carry them. My good friend is a very slender guy, and he manages to carry his full sized Sig around very successfully by using a tuckable holster. While I wouldn't say that I was surprised that the concept works, I was actually surprised at how well it works, because the first time he came over to my house wearing it, I had no idea whatsoever that he was packing. I was very impressed, to say the least.
 
Correia: That is a great illustration! You must be a very interesting CHL instructor.

I must say I cringed a bit when I pictured all the folks in your class unholstering their loaded weapons in the classroom! :eek:

Still, I'd love to take your class. ;)

Regards,
ChickenHawk
 
tegemu said:
Hari mai! I trained 75 Squadron RNZAF with the A4K Skyhawks. Some of the nicest, brightest men I have ever encountered. I wish I had kept in touch with them
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Tena koe there Tegemu

75 Squadron was based at Ohakea weren't they?

You'll be saddened to hear that in its infinite wisdom, our slightly-left-of-socialist government decided that we no longer needed our Skyhawks (yes they were old airframes but ...) and their highly trained pilots and ground crews. They scrapped the Skyhawks and we now have zero fighter aircraft ... our airforce has now become pretty much a logistics and search and rescue organisation. Most of the pilots and crew were snapped up by the Australian air force. A huge loss of talent and training.

Spinner
 
I usually carry a Glock 19, not the smallest gun out there but not the biggest. Not being a fashion plate, my usual wardrobe (when on my own time; I wear a uniform at work) is camp shirts and cargo pants. With the shirt loose and untucked and with an IWB holster, it is just about impossible to spot visually. I also sometimes carry smaller guns in front pocket holsters. Here, the looser fit and deeper pockets of cargo and similar pants hides them pretty well. A bulge is still visible, but 1) nobody is looking in the first place (the real key to all this), and 2) in a pocket holster the bulge or outline is not obviously that of a gun. The bottom line is that this isn't really that difficult.
 
Yes they were at Ohakea and I had known about the "Decombatization" of your Air Force. That A4K, was one great bird and I doubt if they had come even close to the end of their service life. If I remember correctly,they were sold to another country, at least they were not scrapped. Do you have a clue how I might track down a couple of sergeants that I had become particularly close to? I am glad to hear that the skills of the Squadron are still available to ANZAC. I was honored by the Sergeants Mess by being made a member, one of only two Yanks so honored. When I got married, post training completion, the officers arranged to have my best friend Sgt. flown to Florida for my wedding and bring my wedding present from the Sgt's Mess, a Tai Aha, which I treasure. I have many years of training Military aviation folks from many countries and the Kiwi's were the most challenging. They were so smart, well trained and experienced that I had to really be on my toes to not be percieved as a Bloomin' Idjit.
 
ChickenHawk, I warn everybody not to bring any live ammo into the classroom before we start. Plus, they aren't carrying, usually the guns are in the boxes or bags.

But it is one heck of an illustration. :)
 
cargo pants

Some clothing lends itself to concealed carry. Cargo pants (or shorts) will hold a cell phone, a "fat" digital camera, wallet, keys, souvenirs, tourist maps and whatever else you want to stuff into those pockets without bulges appearing. If bulges appear, they are innocuous. Some brands have deeper pockets than others.


"Is that a gun in your pocket or are you glad to see me?" Mae West
 
Correia Wrote:
ChickenHawk, I warn everybody not to bring any live ammo into the classroom before we start. Plus, they aren't carrying, usually the guns are in the boxes or bags.
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Aha! That makes sense. The last time I took my Texas CHL renewal I was carrying (as were several others in the class).

The instructor asked how many people were carrying (since it was a renewal class) and then asked the others "Why Not!!??" It's pertty amazing how many people bother to get a CHL but do not carry consistently. This instructor (local Sherriff) was VERY Pro-Carry and made the point in various ways.

Actually, it was even more amazing that several people hadn't shot a gun since their last class (which was evident by their admission as well as during the range portion of the class).

Regards,
ChickenHawk
 
I live in Phoenix, in the heat, and I carry a full size 1911 IWB in shorts and an untucked polo shirt and no one would/could notice.

This is the great thing about the internet. Other countries can see the freedoms that they don't have. That's the first step in changing your country.
 
Unlike most I carry in a shoulder holster 90% of the time.

It's a little slower on the draw but I can carry under a button-up short sleeve shirt even in warm weather, still keep my shirts tucked in, and I don't have the weight pulling my pants down.

I carry a 9mm Sig P226.
 
TankSoldier: I'm a shoulder holster fan, too. I go back and forth between that and OWB. Just depends on how I feel. I probably wear the OWB 75% of the time, though.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk
 
My wife knows I carry everyday, but she tells me she can never tell by looking and I don't really try to hide it all that much other than covering it with a t-shirt. I can see it when I look in a mirror, but that's because I know it there I guess. Nobody has ever said a word to me about it.
 
I normally carry an M1911 in an IWB of my own design. Some years ago, I picked up a Colt Detective Special as something I could drop in my pocket going out the door. I began to experiment with this gun, carrying it "Mexican Carry" by hooking the butt over my belt and blousing my shirt. That worked, but I felt the gun slip a time or two.

I developed an IWB that carries the gun with just the butt peeking over the belt. The top edge of the holster is level with the belt line and there is a holster track that guards the hammer as the gun is drawn, preventing it from snagging. I can wear this with a tucked but bloused T-shirt and it's totally invisible.
 
I got "made" yesterday at a funeral. Sort of...

The funeral (memorial service, actually) was for the father of a 30 year friend of mine. Lots of hugging. We were in a family receiving line of sorts and I was consistantly trying to "go strong side low" for hugs, but the widow "went lower" and felt my compact 1911. She looks at me and jokingly says, "Are you packin'?" :what: Fortunately, given the situation, I just reached in and pulled out my BlackBerry that I carry just forward of my CCW. No more questions and it passed.

I've got to keep working on this.
 
Lately because of the Ohio heat (And our silly "Open carry required in vehicles" law, I have been keeping the SIG P239 9mm IWB, carried at 4 o'clock, with tee shirt tucked into the pants normally, gun butt exposed. If I am going into a more sheep infested area I untuck the shirt and cover but otherewise I go about my business with the butt in the breeze carry. When you have to do a lot of errands in and out of a car, tuck/untuck/tuck/untuck gets to be a PITA.
 
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