CASE DISMISSED!!! Matt Corwin

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Good news. At least I learned something out of all this (including the original thread): "Guns freak people out. They shouldn't but they do. And if we want to preserve our gun rights then we're going to have to be sensitive to the people who don't like guns."
 
And if we want to preserve our gun rights then we're going to have to be sensitive to the people who don't like guns.
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Why? Why should I be sensitive in order to excercise my rights? Why aren't THEY (the anti-gun gang) more sensitive to US?
 
Good for him. He must have gotten the King's Christmas pardon.

actually, he got the best firearms law team this side of the mississippi (IMHO, at least). he was able to afford that because his family, friends, and hundreds of complete strangers that barely even knew him as an online persona donated their own hard earned money to help him fight this injustice.

by prevailing, we have struck one more blow for freedom in california. now the next time the DOJ wants to prosecute someone for his scary pictures, they will have something to reconsider.

i spoke with his mother a few days ago. amazing what a few days brings. since he still has a lot of bills, I'm going to propose at the next EAI meeting that we hold another raffle fundraiser for him. the last one raised about $2200.
 
He made it in the local news...it should've been covered by LA Times...oh well:

http://www.whittierdailynews.com/ci_7747609?source=rss_viewed

Charges against ex-student dropped
Article Launched: 12/17/2007 10:40:35 PM PST

ALHAMBRA - Six felony charges, including possession of an assault weapon, were dismissed today against a former East Los Angeles College student body president.

The charges against Matthew Corwin were dismissed by Alhambra Superior Court Judge Carlos Uranga at the prosecution's request, said Deputy District Attorney Donna Hollingsworth.

A civil compromise was reached on three of the charges, according to the prosecutor.

Defense attorney Chuck Michel described his 24-year-old client as an "A student" with a "very distinguished military career" who has been reactivated with the U.S. Army.

"It's been a tremendous emotional burden on him," Michel said of the charges against Corwin. " I think the D.A.'s office deserves credit for taking a hard look at this case and realizing what it was and it wasn't."

The charges - which stemmed from Corwin's alleged possession of assault weapons and other weapons at his Monterey Park home - were filed April 30.

Six other charges that were initially filed against Corwin involving a replica Browning machine gun were dismissed May 14 after authorities determined it was not an assault weapon and is not illegal.

- From staff reports
 
Here's a post from Matt, as you read it you can tell how F'd up the whole issue got as it went along. :eek:


A Calguns Shoot and Q at Burro or Angeles is definitely in order. All my stuff is still in the LASD property lockup somewhere, but as soon as it's released I want to get back to the range. Don't want to get rusty! There is stuff I did not even get to shoot yet!

A side note on a more serious topic: Don't be too harsh on the DA's office. While all of my stuff was completely legal, from their point of view the DOJ, which is supposed to be responsible for interpreting the law (to at least some extent) was saying I had very illegal stuff. Stuff I went and posted pictures of on the internet. Stuff which reportedly terrified the more "progressive" students at my college, who happened to already be terrified by my libertarian ideas.


The fact is, it's very obvious that the DOJ is responsible for the entire situation by making it nearly impossible for anyone, even the DA, to figure out what is legal. This goes double for the cop or detective on the street that has to try and enforce this law along with 5,000 others. Sure in a perfect world they would at least know the laws they are arresting and prosecuting people for allegedly violating, but perfect it's not.

When it comes down to it, the DA (and deputies assistants ect.) and the Sheriff's Dept. really were caught up in the same mess as me. A mess created entirely by the DOJ FD (or whatever they are calling themselves these days). Once the situation got started, it was very difficult for anyone directly involved to back down. Pride and ego and all that. In other words, when the bandwagon started rolling lots of otherwise good folks jumped on blindly, and by the time they realized where it was headed it was too late to get off. Also, while it's not an excuse, consider that there was a very horrible and tragic incident that occurred on a college campus VERY shortly before I was arrested. Understandably folks wanted to do anything possible to prevent some sort of repeat, and so might have jumped without looking.

Now some things fall outside of this, like persons making slanderous statements in reference (which became libel in national newspapers, or were aired locally), certain civilian investigators for the DOD that somehow became confused about what is soldiers are supposed to be issued, certain ATF agent(s) that don't know a machine gun from a legal replica, and various persons that don't seem to interpret the words "handle" and "plate" the way I do. But none of those issues ever would have been issues if the DOJ FD agents had not been doing everything possible to prevent gun owners in this state from following the law.

Top person(s) there communicated with a radical anti civil liberties organization about which would be the most effective method(s) to deprive us, Californian gun owners, of our civil rights. In the long term they hoped to get legislation passed, or even quasi laws enforced, that would prevent us from owning OLRs. In the short term they hoped to use confusion and threats to prevent us from doing what was and is perfectly legal to do. They are bullies plain and simple. What (almost) happened to me is exactly what they wanted, a gun owner with OLRs gets publicly arrested, prosecuted and is unable to fight the system. They get to sit back and watch while the responsibility falls on the local DA, no risk to them.

Only they have failed, as they have since the beginning. Just as Calgunnners did not allow their threats, FUD and made up policies to stop lawful OLLs from entering this state and being built into legal and functional firearms, when I was down Calgunners did not let me stay down. And they lost. Instead of Californian gun owners being more reluctant to build OLLs, California DAs will be more reluctant to rely on the DOJ FUD.

Our community is stronger and more active than ever. It's a bit like when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, they though they would take the fight out of us, and instead they woke the real fight up.

And this fight is not over. Los Angeles is no place to fight in the court system over gun laws. The Right People will fight this fight, but we must pick out battles as well as the place and time. We are the underdog here, but we have far better minds on our side, and a far stronger will. The DOJ FD and its agents will be forced to defend themselves in court. And they will lose. Again.

Also, I know some of you want to know what my legal bill is (truth is I don't even know yet myself), I appreciate every cent I have received, but please don't forget we have other battles to fight. T&M has posted that they need money for legal action that will have even greater impact in the long run for everyone than my case (and that money is tax deductible!). So I would at least ask that you give at least as much to that fund as to help me, even if it means splitting what you would have donated. They need that money (experts, research, travel ect. isn't free) to fight for our rights. I don't think I'd be able to rest easy otherwise.

Thanks again, and keep your powder dry.

Matt Corwin
Blackwater OPS
 
I see a lot of "Pro Rights" talk here, but I know from experience that most of these people will easily submit when thier rights are pressured. As children we knew these type, they played it safe and sided with the Bully - or didn't say anything and turned a cold shoulder to anyone who stood up for themselves. Remember? Well...now they are all grown up...and they are still subject to being bullied. Not much has changed. I hope it doesn't embitter you.

I don't know if that's part of your post, or your sig line. Either way, it's true. It's a profound statement about what to expect if you decide to stand up for your rights. Just my experience, and YMMV, IANAL, product known to cause erectile dysfunction, nausea, and spastic colon, Not valid where prohibited by law, etc....
 
Colt46 said:
I shudder to think how much he spent to clear his good name against this obvious witch hunt

$43,300.30. I believe about $8,000-$10,000 is yet to be paid. Matt's fellow Calguns.net board members have footed the majority of the bill.

ExtremeDooty said:
Can anyone tell me how the Judge justified $625,000.00 bail? Did Matt ever make bail or did he stay in jail the whole time? And what about that Restraining Order at his College?

It was something like a dozen felony charges mostly for his various guns and knives which all added up. So a typical gun enthusiast will get the same bail as a rapist in this state, if his collection is seized. Matt spent three weeks in one of the nastier county jails in America. I don't know about the restraining order at his school yet.

Aguila Blance said:
Could someone post a concise summary of what charges actually went to triel and the basis of the judge's ruling? I'm sure I'm not the only person outside of California who is interested.

Well, it never actually went to trial. There were six charges for semi-auto M1919s which got dropped quickly (also initially there charges for "stolen" credit card numbers, but he had those from a M1919 group buy I believe). The charges that remained towards the end were: one for stolen property (old Army ID), one for a throwing star (was actually a multi-bladed knife), one for weighted gloves, and a few for "assault weapons" that actually weren't because the receivers were not on the named list. The prosecutor asked for dismissal of all the later charges after Matt agreed to surrender some of his off-list receivers, which is the standard face-saving extortion that DAs resort to in California after they realize that their charges are unfounded and would lose in court. The gun-owner agrees because the cost to replace the guns is about one tenth what the legal fees would be, even for an easy victory.

I would be glad to send some money to assist this person also. Certainly is a mind boggler. Thanks for the information.

Check out 50 shooter's link in post #33 above, if you didn't see it already--you can mail a check to a fund his law firm set up for him.
 
And if we want to preserve our gun rights then we're going to have to be sensitive to the people who don't like guns.
Going by this “logic” we should give up CC and OC (for those lucky enough to have it) since it might offend or scare the sheeple??!! :scrutiny:
 
Man, thats the worst railroading I've seen since Snidely Whiplash tied Nell to the tracks in the 70's.....
Glad to hear he won.
 
Guns scare people and they shouldn't. As gun owners we have allowed ourselves to become marginalized (sp). We have allowed ourselves to become a "fringe" group. Illegal aliens have more vocal suporters than we do. Why is that? Urban people do not see guns. There are none in the stores only in "gun stores" Everytime one of us celebrates at the thought of Wallmart getting out of the firearm busisness remember they are the LAST nation wide department store chain to sell firearms. When Walmart gets out of the busisness we have truly lost. Guns in Walmart lend them a normalcy. Sears, Montgomrey Wards, heck even K-mart had their own firearm brands. No more. The antis reralize the power of the subliminal message of a rack full of guns in a department store. It makes guns normal. Everytime they push guns out of mainstream stores we lose. Soon we will be on the level of adult bookstores. The only place you will be able to find guns or ammo is in specific stores. Is it a good iddea to have pics of your guns on a myspace account? Probably not, especially if you are a college student. Paradoxically it is also the best thing for our side. The more people see them the more normal they are. WHITHOUT MAKING MORAL JUDGEMENTS these are just examples. Mixed race couples: used to be outlawed, now normal to see. Homosexual couples the same. They even have gay pride parades. Piercings and tatoos have become more accepted. HOW? Because they existed in public and refused to be pushed to the fringe. They stayed in the public view untill no one noticed anymore. Again no value judgements but the above groups were considered abnormal for a long time but by persisting they have become normal. They took pride in what they were, they considered themselves normal and are now considered by most to be normal. Now before anyone gets offended. I am not that great with words I tried to give examples of how and why things get accepted or pushed away. For the record I have a tattoo and my wife is from Costa Rica, so some would saw we are a mixed race family, I met her the day after she got here to get her Masters in Special Education. In spite of what some of you are thinking right now I am not repeat NOT her ongoing research project for her Phd in special ed.:confused: :D
I believe Jeff White said it here on this board. The great divide in this country is between the rural and urban people. If there is going to be a big problem it will not be between races but between those two groups.



Len S
 
Legal expenses
Bond expenses
and who knows what else in involved in the destruction of a life.

Matt may not have a record but his adventures will show on a detailed background check. So now he has to deal with job implications of being tossed because of gun problems. Legal schmegal. His future employability is compromised. At a minimum I would expect a diminished income.

I hope Matt is in contact with a civil lawyer. I know I would be.
 
glad to hear the good 'ol DA lost

i love sheepies that freak out when they see people that like guns.

i'm thinking of posting gun pics on my facebook just to get people mad.

I guess that might be my personality though; i enjoy trolling on the web (i don't troll here though, since i actually like this place) nad i enjoy poking holes in peoples' arguments. it's just fun to watch dreams get shattered.

if you've got to offend a few idiots to exercise your rights, then so be it.
 
STOP

This is not "awesome" or great.

An innocent man got blatantly raped by a vigilanty DA who didn't LIKE the law, and tried to do anything to screw the poor man over.

That 1) this ever happened and 2) having happened, the DA isn't doing hard time in jail.. is a sad travesty for the rights of all American Citizens.
 
k_dawg, this is great. Two years ago, there were no new legal ARs in California. Know how we got them in here? CalGuns.net. Then one of our own gets busted for it, turned in by his "progressive" classmates, busted by ignorant cops and DAs. But CalGuns.net puts up the money, and we get him out of there, and we get all charges dismissed. He had the bail of a freaking rapist, going into one of the nastiest county jails in the country, and we got him out of there clean.

This is great because of the crappy situation we as Californians started in. We didn't have some big organization headquartered two-three thousand miles away do it for us--it was just us average gun guys, people who often draw hateful rhetoric on this very board, from those who never fight and yet attack us not fighting hard enough--who did it.


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Len S, good points, but they had TV, newspapers, and schools on their side. We have all that, not just neutral, but AGAINST us.

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I could go on right here about a STRIPPED AR lower that I paid $275 for with a 2 YEAR (effectively) waiting period, but you know what, most of you just wouldn't understand that I am HAPPY about it. :)

Fight the power, y'all, its worth it. It is what made America great.
 
Silverlance wrote
by prevailing, we have struck one more blow for freedom in california. now the next time the DOJ wants to prosecute someone for his scary pictures, they will have something to reconsider.

If only it were that easy. This little escapade ( and for Big Brother in Sacramento it was little) did not harm the CA DOJ or any of the other rabid gungrabbers in the slightest. They used our tax dollars to persecute and harass an honest citizen. The chances of this young man ever seeing any real justice ( as in the adam henrys that started this ball rolling being personally penalized) are approximately the same as him winning the big one in the state lotto.


CountGlockula writes.
I wonder how the DOJ will respond? It is THEIR responsibility!

My guess is they won't respond at all. They will refuse comment. They will bide their time until another opportunity to crucify and make an example out of an evil gun owner comes along. They are essentially immune from punishement or being held accountable. Like all petty tyrants the only outcome to their goals being thwarted is petulance and the urge to show them "who the boss is". Mark my words, DOJ will be back bigger, badder and meaner when the next victim pops up.
 
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