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Catching Bin Ladin

Discussion in 'Legal' started by mike101, Aug 23, 2006.

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  1. mike101

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    Bin Ladin's obsessions are on the news again today. Julia Roberts, MacGuiver, super-models, American TV, etc.

    So, how do we catch him? Whatever they're doing isn't working so far.

    Quick, before the Thought Police close this thread down, too.
     
  2. Biker

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    I'm not sure that we want to catch him that badly. Could be that we need an Usama Bin Goldstein. Fear is big bidness and nothing exceeds like excess.
    JMO...

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  3. ceetee

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    Comfy now?
     
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    My own opinion, (based on absolutly no facts whatsoever) is that he's already dead and burried in some cave somewhere. His disappearance serves both sides.
     
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    This board is Oleg's private property -- obeying his rules has nothing to do with "thought police."
     
  6. Desk Jockey

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    How do we catch him? We're not even trying! We haven't been trying for the past 4 years.

    As far as the Bush administration is concerned, OBL is far more valuable as a boogeyman on the loose than he would be if captured or confirmed dead.

    The president said these things on 11/6/01:
    Four months later, he changed his tune 180 degrees when responding to a reporter's question:
    Apparently this was before the President settled on the brilliant and complex strategy of "stay the course". The government doesn't want to catch bin Laden, or we'd have had him years ago.
     
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    The one, the only uncaught fugitive?

    They caught the "Sodomizer". They caught "Milos-the-@itch", and they tamed the Libyan "Kadoofy Dork". They expect me to believe they don't know where “His” bones are buried? I may look dumb; I may sound dumb; but I'm not stupid. And I'm not convinced. If our special ops. are the world's best (I believe they are) turn them loose and have them bring back a freeze-dried head, and change his name to "Osma Bin-dead 5 Years). What were those immortal words, "We have a saying in Texas: wanted dead or alive". So, if the scum is truly alive, bring some pressure to those hiding him. War can only be fought, and won, in one way...no limits!

    Just my humble opinion, and now it is revealed why I would be the world's VERY WORST president.

    :rolleyes:

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    Bin Laden has been the poster boy for the War on Terror (an easy title to use whether you believe it or not). As such, he's the focus of the media and the ultimate measure of success. We get him, we're winning; we don't have him, we're losing. This is, of course, nonsense and a lot of the effort to get the focus off him is due to that. It's as if we were fighting the Germans, and everyone was saying killing Hitler would solve everything. Just as killing Hitler would not have stopped the Wehrmacht (and would have actually made the German military more efficient), capturing/killing Bin Laden would not stop the terror network he set up and funded.

    I have no doubt a lot of effort goes into nailing him. But I also think the effort is probably proportional to the actual threat he poses now.
     
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    The conspiracy theory of Bush wanting Bin Ladin free fails for the same reason other government conspiracy theories fail. There are literally tens-of-thousands of people working on the issue. You've got to assume a top-down "conspiracy" in which none of the tens-of-thousands of people involved let on or catch on.
     
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    We can't operate, like we need to, in Pakistan without pissing them off.
    They have been helpful. If OBL is alive, he knows this, which is why that is likely where he is.
     
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    In the modern climate, when even classified operations are routinely leaked out by people with political axes, there is no way that such a conspiracy could be kept quiet. Too many people in the CIA and State would be all too willing to call the New York Times and spill the beans as a "confidential source."
     
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    I don't think there's any 'conspiracy theory' here. Bush himself said that OBL is not a priority. They shut down the CIA unit tasked with finding him. They may not "want Bin Ladin free", but they certainly don't prioritize capturing him. There's no secret conspiracy, there's just no real focus on that issue.
    Edit to add source: Bush says OBL 'marginalized'
     
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    I think it would be a huge mistake to focus on a guy we have not been able to catch. He will screw up someday and we will get him. But making him the focus just highlights that we haven't caught him - yet.
     
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    The taskfource the found Sadium Housaine ( I know I know sp :rolleyes: ) Was suposed to be set free look for OBL, did that ever happen???

    Doubt it ever will.
     
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    I know it would anger the Pakistanis if we just rolled in there and started blasting away at the mountains. So, can't our special ops people sneak in there some how. I'm sure we have agents inside Pakistan. How about bribing the natives for a little intel.

    I think there would be less practical value in getting him, than there would be in propoganda value. Bush tries to make it sound unimportant, but when we do get someone, all of a sudden it's a victory in the War on Terror.

    Maybe we could borrow the Mossad, for a while.
     
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    I heard Osama and Bush are great fishing buddies. Why would Bush want him dead, when needed he serves the purpose of being a constant reminder of the War on Terror. Everytime Republicans polls are low, all of a sudden Bin Laden makes a tape. Sounds fishy to me. Personally I believe he died sometime ago, but his voice has been recored and they can make new tapes up using his voice.
     
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    The guy is a mass murderer of Americans, ergo he needs to be killed, ASAP. How can this NOT be a priority?!?! If a "President Gore" had made OBL "not a priority" he'd be impeached, tarred and feathered already.

    Jesus, the apologetics never stop....
     
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    The President pulled the Special Operations unit that was looking for him and stopped all efforts some time ago. He's more useful to the Administration running around keeping the sheep bleating in terror than dead or in prison.
     
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    I like how the mods here are the Thought Police because they closed down an asinine thread about how Osama has a crush on Whitney Houston. (even the thread title was stupid)

    Yep, those damn moderators. Jerks.

    Sheesh.
     
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    I don't know about that. Everyone but one guy seemed to be enjoying it. Asinine? Stupid? Why, because YOU didn't like it?

    Yeah, what Thought Police?
     
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    He's almost certainly in Pakistan or close enough to get there if he needs to dodge us. The administration in its wisdom decided long ago that he was no longer a major threat and did not want to alienate the Pakistani government and risk causing an islamic uprising there by going in with the force needed to slaughter the AQ remnants. Of course now we're seeing them and the Talibs come back across in greater force now that they've had a few years to recover.

    I consider the failure to catch OBL Bush's single greatest failure. If he ends his administration without catching the man, he will be deemed a total waste of salt as a President and a human being. I don't even care if we're tapping all his phones and learning tons of stuff from him. I want him and all his followers *DEAD* with extreme prejudice. We all do. But Bush is the decider, and he's decided to spare our greatest enemy since Hitler, let the Mexican scum take our jobs and give our ports to Arab princes who's sons killed so many on 9/11. I'm currently praying for a massive Democratic victory in the upcoming election to shock the GOP into cleaning house.
     
  23. Correia

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    Yes Mike. It was asinine. That is my opinion. It was titled "Osama and Whitney sitting in a tree." I'm pretty hard pressed to think about how that title could be considered anything other than stupid. Once again, only my opinion.

    And no, I'm not the one that locked your thread. I pretty much stay out of L&P, as that is the area for mods with a cooler head and better temperment than me.
     
  24. Art Eatman

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    mikeburk, your opinion is your own right, but please realize that I get as many as a dozen or more emails a day from guys griping about off-topic threads. IOW, you're not the arbiter and judge on what threads remain open.

    For all: If you haven't done it, read the rules of this website. Note that such remarks as calling me "thought police" are a personal insult to a registered member, aside from anything else...Check the forum header as to what's on topic and what's not.

    And realize that I'm pretty lenient, most of the time.

    Art
     
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    What Art said.
     
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