Cattlemans Carbine

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I am very interested in this little number would like some input on it if anybody has one. I found one at a place called Florida Gun Works they are based in Miami and they have it listed for $349 the cheapest ive found so far.
 
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Nice, I've seen them used in the old spaghetti westerns a few times.

Probably a good pecarry killer and as accurate as most cap and ball revolvers are that little carbine should handle running rabbits at fairly close range.

I'd just been thinking about a pistol carbine carried by an old TV Western star.
It was a colt SAA revolver with interchangable barrels, one frontier size the other carbine length, and the sort of detachable metal buttstock sometimes seen with the Buntline specials.
A company came out with a quick change barrel Colt style six shooter years ago. There barrels were all pistol length just different calibers to use with interchangable cylinders. The barrel lock up system was simple and rigid.

Too bad such a pistol carbine set up with a cartridge gun would be subject to BATF rules.
It'd be especially nice in a light .22 magnum format, for small game up to turkey size.
 
Bigbadgun, I googled Florida gunworks and you might want to do that before you buy from them. In addition to showing their website google also listed some sites relating to them not supplying what they offer. It would be too bad because their prices are awesome.
 
Pancho I was doing more research on FGW dont throw your money away from what i understand the state attorney has been contacted about this company on many occations and there is a movement to have them removed from the internet. Just thought I would let you know.
 
I wonder if a reproduction pistol carbine stock made for the Colt 1860 Army could be fitted to a Single Six?

While mounting such a stock to a cartridge pistol would be illegal, I've heard that by rebarreling the pistol to over sixteen inches would make it a rifle rather than a handgun (making a pistol out of a rifle is illegal but not the other way around), but perhaps that only counts if the stock is mounted permanently.

How does that sound?
I've got a real beat up but still sound and tight Single Six and I've been considering making a custom piece out of it.
Like Kaiser Willhem my left flipper is a bit bunged up so like him I might find the Pistol Carbine style easier to handle than a regular long arm.
The arm is okay most of the time I just can't rotate the wrist well enough to cradle a fore end comfortably. Sometimes the nerve gets pinced and I have to rotate the wrist with the otherhand to get it to turn at all.
I really should find a new doctor, perhaps they can trim away some of the calcus that pins the nerve between the wrist bones.
Well its better than losing it altogether.
A nephew ended up with his wrist bones penetrating his leather jacket and if he hadn't been wearing a thick Harley Davidson vest they would have ripped open his abdomen. I still have the vest, you can see where the sharp ends of the bones scarred the leather.
Took three years and a dozen surgeries to repair that mess. He also gave me the steel rods and clamps and a collection of threaded steel spikes with Drill bit tips that they used to hold his bones straight while the bone grafts took.

I didn't have that level of care back in the old days. If I hadn't fallen out of a tree I was trimming and broken the arm again it would still be bent like a bow saw. Straight and with normal strength these days. Just that nerve pincing problem.

Rambling because I just got my script refilled, Thank heaven for the US Pharamacuetical industry.;)
 
Are you speaking of the .44 Remington Cattleman's Carbine? I own one. It's made by Uberti. I don't know if anyone else make's it or not. The rear sight on mine was a little loose when I first got it. I tightened it up and set the sights. It is extremely accurate, although I am older now and smoke a lot of cigarettes and drink a lot of coffee and I'm sure I'm not as steady as I used to be.
It shoot's real good and I have a friend (mostly a friend of my brother) who own's one and he has killed several deer with his. I saw him shoot it one day and I am still impressed whenever I think about it. I ordered mine from Cabela's. They are kind of pricey but I guess they are worth every penny of it. I will repeat here. They are EXTREMELY accurate...
 
I have an 1858 Remington Texan. This is the one that has a twelve inch barrel. I ordered a shoulder stock for it. It hasn't arrive yet but I suspect i will be a lot like the Cattleman's carbine but with a shorter barrel. There is a notch on the butt of the Texan that looks to be where the shoulder stock attaches. If this is the only modification I bet you could make a regular 1858 Remington work with the shoulder stock. I can't say for sure until I get the stock but that is the way it looks so far. And yea the long sight radius really helps make these pistols shoot much better. The Cattleman has a much longer barrel so it will have a much longer sight radius.

Just for fun I saw one in a movie the other day. I saw "Lonesome Dove" for the first time and in one of the segments a bunch of bad guys where stealing some horses and shooting the guys that had them. The main bad guy used a Cattleman's Carbine.
 
Bigbadgun, yeah that's it. I just now went and looked at your thumbnails. Yeah, it shoot's real good. I'm gonna have to get some luminous paint for my front sight blade and the notch in the rear sight. It's hard for me to center my front sight blade out there in low light. I'm gonna see if I can fine a picture of that 1858 Reminton Texan Misfire 99 posted about. The one with the 12 inch barrel and the notch for a stock. I'm not gonna try to buy one but I want to look at it.
Yeah, go ahead and get the Cattleman's Carbine. Just check it over good and make sure the bore is in good shape and that the chambers don't have any deep gouges in them. Hey, look here now. The cylinder out of the Remington 1858 New Model Army (8 inch barrel, 2 lbs & 11 oz, etc) will fit easily into the Cattleman'e Carbine. DON'T DO IT! There is too large of a gap and you're asking for trouble. Serious trouble. The cylinder from the Cattleman's Carbine will NOT fit into the New Model Army revolver, at least if the Carbine is made by Uberti and the New Model revolver is made by Pietta...Okay...
 
I just left Cabela's website. They are all sold out of the Cabela's Cattleman's Carbine and will not back order. HOWEVER! They have some more coming in but they will be under a different name on the computer and in the catalog. It's the exact same firearm but now it will be carried as 'Uberti Cattleman's Carbine". I just got off the phone with Cabela's. They clued me in. I don't know why Cabela's started calling it by another name. Maybe Uberti asked them to. I know I bought mine from Cabela's and it's made by Uberti. So is my Walker and My Colt 1849 .31 Pocket...Okay...
 
Well my stock for my Texan arrived today. To install it you change the trigger screw with one that has a longer screw head and the screw is longer so a round "nut" can be applied to it's end. This gives a boss for the stock to register on. There is a hook that fits into the base of the grip, where the notch is cut, and tightends by means of the thumb screw. Here are some links for you:


Texan:
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=2586

Shoulder stock:
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_187_189&products_id=7271


Dixie gun works Remington Carbine:
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_92_186_191&products_id=1000

One thing I have noticed about the Carbine and the Texan. The rear sight of the Carbine is on the barrel about two inches in front of the action. On the Texan the rear sight is right in front of the trigger, were a pistol sight would normally be. The Texan sight is fully adjustable where the Carbine sight is only adjustable for elevation. I don't have a Carbine in my hand to see if this is true but I suspect that the sight radius is close to the same on both weapons. I think this would make them about equal in accuracy.

It is supposed to be snowing and cold, highs in the low twenties below zero at night, here for a few days. When it clears up a bit I will hit the range and let you know how it shoots. I think I even have some conicals left for the 1858.
 
That's a nice looking stock. I had seen the revolver (I guess about the same thing) on Cabela's and in my Dixie Gun Works catalog. Are you gonna post some pictures after you get the stock fitted? I bet it will be pretty. You know, I was sitting here thinking with my coffee. It might depend on a person's reach and so forth, but with the sights positioned like you just said, it may be a little easier and quicker to get on target with your Texan. You say the sights on that Texan are fully adjustable? Windage? That is a nice touch, because they will come in handy, because if it shoot's like the Carbine (which I agree with you it probably does, just might handle a little bit different) then it will be spot on after you fiddle around with it a little while...Okay...
 
Seek and yea shall find. Knock and it will be opened up to you.

Here are some pics of the Texan with the stock attached. As well as what it looks like in the holster with stock attached.

When it is in the holster it is a little long to put on your belt. But I think I can rig up something that will allow me to carry it below my hip bone and on my leg.

The length of pull with stock attached is 16 inches. This is two inches longer then my front stuffer rifles.

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Look's good buddy. It really does. You have done yourself proud. That piece of brass that fit's over the backstrap of the revolver really sets it off. The dark wood and the brass and the blued steel look good together. I'm real interested in the position of that rear sight. I also like the drop on that stock design. When you shoot it, are you gonna come back on here and let people know how it shot and handled? I would like to know. I myself don't need to see pictures of the holes in the paper and all. You can just say how it grouped at such and such a range and maybe how many grains was pushing the ball. It does look real good though. I wouldn't know what to tell you about a holster. Maybe the people who sold you the stock could put you on to someone. Or maybe Dixie. You can always buy some leather and dye it and what all, or you could get you a couple of nice leather slings and rig you up some kind of carry system, like maybe over your shoulder with the stock jutting up in front of your belly or your chest so it would be an easy one hand pull. Maybe also run aome rawhide throngs through the bottom of the holster and tie if off to your leg so it wouldn't flap and bounce around and rub a sore on your leg. Anyway, it is fine looking and that's for sure. Be sure and post how it handles and all...Okay...
 
I have a 1858 Pietta Buffalo Shoulder Stock (EMF) for sale in accessories. Unused, LNIB
 
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