This is in Oklahoma City
So, All this talk about me wanting to get my CCL, has made my dad and my brother want to get one as well.
So my brother who is 25 now, Got into trouble when he was a juvenile. (17 years of age) He was charged with concealing stolen property, and burglary in the 2nd degree. (He was with a guy who broke into a car, and stole a cd-player or something) and as they say, guilty by association. He plead no contest/guilty and was placed on probation for 5 months or so. well, after he was 18/19 he had his record expunged. Can he get a CCL with this?
Oklahoma laws say, If the bureau finds a record that indicates the person was adjudicated a delinquent for an offense that would constitute a felony offense if committed by an adult within the last 10 years the bureau shall deny the license.
But his record is close, because of the expunged, only thing that would come up is his name on JOLTS (Juvenile Online Tracking System)
The laws also says this
If the record suggest the applicant may have been adjudicates delinquent for an offense that would constitute a felony offense if committed by an adult but such record is inconclusive, the bureau shall ask the applicant whether he or she was adjudicated a delinquent for an offense that would constitute a felony offense if committed by an adult within the last 10 years. If the applicant states under penalty of perjury that he or she was not adjudicated a delinquent within ten (10) years, the bureau shall continue processing the application.
But Oklahoma expunged laws say
D. Upon the entry of an order to seal the records, or any part thereof, the subject official actions shall be deemed never to have occurred, and the person in interest and all criminal justice agencies may properly reply, upon any inquiry in the matter, that no such action ever occurred and that no such record exists with respect to such person.
F. Employers, educational institutions, state and local government agencies, officials, and employees shall not, in any application or interview or otherwise, require an applicant to disclose any information contained in sealed records. An applicant need not, in answer to any question concerning arrest and criminal records provide information that has been sealed, including any reference to or information concerning such sealed information and may state that no such action has ever occurred. Such an application may not be denied solely because of the applicant's refusal to disclose arrest and criminal records information that has been sealed.
I am worried that if he does get try to get his CCL he may get into trouble for lying under penalty of perjury that he was not adjudicated a delinquent, but it maybe a loop hole or something. I told him to talk to a Lawyer. but he does not want to.
So, All this talk about me wanting to get my CCL, has made my dad and my brother want to get one as well.
So my brother who is 25 now, Got into trouble when he was a juvenile. (17 years of age) He was charged with concealing stolen property, and burglary in the 2nd degree. (He was with a guy who broke into a car, and stole a cd-player or something) and as they say, guilty by association. He plead no contest/guilty and was placed on probation for 5 months or so. well, after he was 18/19 he had his record expunged. Can he get a CCL with this?
Oklahoma laws say, If the bureau finds a record that indicates the person was adjudicated a delinquent for an offense that would constitute a felony offense if committed by an adult within the last 10 years the bureau shall deny the license.
But his record is close, because of the expunged, only thing that would come up is his name on JOLTS (Juvenile Online Tracking System)
The laws also says this
If the record suggest the applicant may have been adjudicates delinquent for an offense that would constitute a felony offense if committed by an adult but such record is inconclusive, the bureau shall ask the applicant whether he or she was adjudicated a delinquent for an offense that would constitute a felony offense if committed by an adult within the last 10 years. If the applicant states under penalty of perjury that he or she was not adjudicated a delinquent within ten (10) years, the bureau shall continue processing the application.
But Oklahoma expunged laws say
D. Upon the entry of an order to seal the records, or any part thereof, the subject official actions shall be deemed never to have occurred, and the person in interest and all criminal justice agencies may properly reply, upon any inquiry in the matter, that no such action ever occurred and that no such record exists with respect to such person.
F. Employers, educational institutions, state and local government agencies, officials, and employees shall not, in any application or interview or otherwise, require an applicant to disclose any information contained in sealed records. An applicant need not, in answer to any question concerning arrest and criminal records provide information that has been sealed, including any reference to or information concerning such sealed information and may state that no such action has ever occurred. Such an application may not be denied solely because of the applicant's refusal to disclose arrest and criminal records information that has been sealed.
I am worried that if he does get try to get his CCL he may get into trouble for lying under penalty of perjury that he was not adjudicated a delinquent, but it maybe a loop hole or something. I told him to talk to a Lawyer. but he does not want to.
