CCW pistol

[cpttango30]

Ok I was thinking one day (Scarry thought that is). What do you think would happen if you were carring the new Smith & Wesson 4" 500 S&WMag as your CCW and actulay had to shoot some one? Do you think you would be made out to be some blood thursty killer who was packing a pistol large enought to kill an elephant? or some other stupid crap?

 

[40SW]

I am not aware of anyone carrying it as a CCW weapon. Its simply not practical. I've had hundreds and hundreds of students and not a single with feedback that anything chambered in .500SW was their choice for CCW.
Most folks who purchase this gun, do it for a number of reasons, one is the show off factor at the range and simple adrenaline. Others get it for hunting, and individuals who camp/fish/and hike in remote areas that are prone to have large predators and carnivours roaming in that area, ie Alaska, etc.
but on the off chance that someone does use a .500SW for self defense, I would say that their primary concern would be overpenetration and I am sure one would be hard pressed to make a good case as to its "practical" nature.
I don't see Mr.Ayoob on the expert defense witness stand making a case as to why someone used a .500SW instead of a .357MAG or a .45ACP.
Then there is the control factor and shootability. Can one really afford the ammo to get proficient with this gun. Simply not practical.

 

[Werewolf]

What do you think would happen if you were carring the new Smith & Wesson 4" 500 S&WMag as your CCW

Not an option in Oklahoma. The max caliber allowed for CCW is .45 (often wondered if that would include .454).

That said the S&W 500 Mag is too darn big to use as a CCW though it might be OK for HD - emphasis on might.

 

[Eyesac]

It's over kill, and simply not practical. I can't see a DA overlooking that detail in court if he's trying to hang you. Everyone I know that CCWs takes it pretty serious, so I can't imagine anyone caring a SW500 that takes it serious.

 

[george29]

I think a simple YES would suffice. In all the court cases I participated in, whether as a defendant or as a witness for the prosecution, the whole purpose of any lawyer is to get ahold of you on a weak point and then start gnawing. Always be careful what you do and even more careful what you say. I would say that in the event that you legally defended yourself with said .500, and said nothing wrong to incriminate yourself, then YES. a lawyer may very well try to get you on the point of excessive force or something, and juries are as predictable as the San Andreas Fault Line. I carry a .44 as CCW and God forbid I need to defend myself, may find myself having to defend my caliber choice as well, maybe.

 

[Ala Dan]

I agree, as its overkill for anything here within the 'Bama nation; including
intruders. Besides, when the tempo is turned up and the adrenaline is 'bout
to flow; most people can't shoot the big magnum types (.454, .460, or 500)
acurately, so they might miss their intended target and kill someones grand
mother 100 or so yards away~!

 

[Mr. Designer]

I was told by someone that works for an Outdoor Retail Store that sold one to a very Large man that used it as a CCW, carrying it in the small of his back. I'm guessing if he had to use it, him and everyone else in the area would be deaf.

 

[cyclist]

Flip the question around:
Let's say you were selected for a jury and the person on trial was being prosecuted for excessive use of force because he used a .500 against an attacker. I don't know if the attacker was inside a house, on the street, armed with a gun/knife/club/other since none of these were specified above. How much sway would the CCW person's selection of this handgun have on your judgement of the charges?

You also didn't say if the CCW person had other options available as to what to carry.

Flipping the question back around again, it would depend on if the CCW person has had incidences in the past. If they've been robbed at gunpoint with thieves holding shotguns, rifles, large caliber handguns, if their attackers usually had body armor on, and if there were no other option available such as if the CCW person was given the gun in question in an estate settlement and can't afford a smaller more practical handgun to carry.

Although technically I don't think anyone should have to justify what and why they carry, if one does have some reasonable justification up front then it makes things downstream much easier to deal with. And if, hypothetically speaking, one does decide to get a .500magnum for their primary carry weapon, NEVER tell anyone you are doing so in order to blow any attacker into the next time zone.

Just my humble opinion. YMMV.

 

[highfive]

I don't think is a viable option for CCW even though somebody might defer. Good gun for hunting or protection out in the woods but at least for me unpractical for carrying.

 

[cnorman18]

I knew a guy...

For most ordinary mortals, a .500 Mag would be about as easy to conceal as a bowling ball. I've only met one man in my life who might have been able to pull it off.

"Big'un" stood seven-foot-eight and weighed 400 pounds if he weighed an ounce. When I shook hands with him, his belt buckle was at the level of my chin. He wasn't skinny like most very tall men; he was literally a yard wide, and had to enter the grocery store (where I met him) bent over and walking sideways. Big'un was a true giant--nothing wrong with him pathologically, just the biggest of a goshawful big family. He was famous in my home town, but he didn't come to town very often (rancher). He didn't care to be stared at. My dad used to run a menswear store and used to sell him his clothes, which all had to be special ordered. His boots were 18-EEEEE.

Big'un died in his late 70s, not long after I met him, but I still wouldn't have taken him on with three other guys and a baseball bat. He could have carried anything he wanted. I doubt if he'd have wanted, even if it had been legal then. His fists were almost as big as my head. I was told he had never been in a fight in his adult life, and I believe it. I don't think it's possible to get that drunk...

I guess if you wanted to shoot HIM, a .500 Mag would have been about right. For anybody else, it would be a bit--excessive.

 

[george29]

A Texan farmer goes to Australia for a vacation. There he meets an Aussie farmer and gets talking. The Aussie shows off his big wheat field and the Texan says, "Oh! We have wheat fields that are at least twice as large".

Then they walk around the ranch a little, and the Aussie shows off his herd of cattle. The Texan immediately says, " We have longhorns that are at least twice as large as your cows".

The conversation has, meanwhile, almost died when the Texan sees a herd of kangaroos hopping through the field. He asked, "And what are those"?

The Aussie replies with an incredulous look, "Don't you have any grasshoppers in Texas"?