CCWing a Machine Pistol

[Positivity]

This is just a hypothetical situation, not a real one (at least for me).

Is there a legal differentiation between a single shot, repeating, or semi auto pistol and a machine pistol in most CCW allowing states? Let's say that for whatever reason, I feel I absolutely must CCW a Glock 18 which is already in the registry and completely legal to own. Would the law prevent me from CCWing it because it is a machine gun?

 

[TurtlePhish]

Not unless your state laws prohibit it. But have fun in court if you ever have to use it...

 

[hso]

If the state doesn't have a prohibition on ownership or carry of a machine gun it would be legal to carry a registered machine gun like a machine pistol, but legal and wise are two entirely different things.

This is one of those "legal, but stupid" situations.

 

[Swing]

But have fun in court if you ever have to use it...

This is one of those "legal, but stupid" situations.

This. It may be legit in some states, but God help you if you used a buzz-gun in self-defense. You may indeed be exonerated, but it would be one hell of a experience.

 

[smalls]

Not to mention that even if you were exonerated, that pistol that costs more than your car gets to "sit" in an evidence locker, where who knows what will happen to it. If you even get it back.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Google Gary Fadden, you'll see why using a Machine Gun for protection is a bad idea when you aren't part of the .gov

 

[dcarch]

I honestly have no use for full auto other than for fun. Too many negatives for what you get.

 

[armoredman]

Well, I'm told there are no fully transferable Glock 18s, for one thing.
In Arizona if you lawfully own an NFA firearm you may carry it, openly or concealed. I knew a gentleman who carried a MAC in .380 in an SMZ shoulder rig. He had several select fire firearms, so if it went into evidence it wouldn't have upset him in the least.
I wouldn't, but I couldn't afford an NFA firearm on my best day, either.

 

[Ben86]

Even if is were perfectly legal, and even if society wouldn't condemn me for using a full auto weapon for SD I still wouldn't want to do that because the chances of getting it back are slim to none. I wouldn't want to waste such an expensive piece of hardware like that.

Fivetwoseven,

Thanks for the mention of Garry Fadden. That's a valuable story.

 

[Rmeju]

(After having your head examined ) you'd want to check the definitions of allowable weapon in your local carry statute, particularly to see if "handgun," "weapon," "firearm," "pistol," or whatever other noun was used to describe what you are allowed to carry has a definition anywhere that happens to exclude select fire weapons (even if fired in semi-mode).

This is all a purely theoretical exercise, of course, because anyone smart enough to bother checking up on any of that is already smart enough to figure out at least one of the many very good reasons never to do it, even if not prohibited!

If you have no other weapon handy, fire away, but just remember that although being judged by 12 is better than being carried by 6... it isn't always a whole lot better.

 

[Quiet]

Legal conceal carrying of a MG depends on your state's laws.
Some states allow it and some do not.

Since the OP is from Virginia... [Virginia Code Section 18.2-308]
Virginia = valid CCW permit only allows you to legally conceal carry a handgun.
So, it is not legal to conceal carry a MG in Virginia.

Virigina Code Section 18.2-308
M. For purposes of this section:
"Handgun" means any pistol or revolver or other firearm, except a machine gun, originally designed, made and intended to fire a projectile by means of an explosion of a combustible material from one or more barrels when held in one hand.



FYI.
There are no fully transferable Glock 18s.
Gun Control Act of 1968 banned the importation of MGs for civilian sale.
After 1968, MGs could only be imported for Gov/Mil/LE agency sales only.
So, there are no fully transferable pre-'86 Glock 18 MGs in the NFA registry.
The majority of Glock 18s in the USA are post-'86 MGs, but there are a few (less than 5) pre-'86 dealer sample Glock 18s in the NFA registry.

 

[AlexanderA]

In addition, a number of states, including Virginia, have what is known as the "Uniform Machine Gun Act," which, among other things, creates a presumption of an "offensive or aggressive purpose" when the machine gun is found off-premises. This could be a legal minefield.

http://bighammer.net/mg.html

 

[Frank Ettin]

Can there possibly be anything more to say? PM me if you think there is, but I might be a little hard to convince.