Cell Phone trumps the gun....... in this case!

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Well, just a few hours ago I was again introduced to the wonderful humanity of a fellow citizen, and I use the term citizen very loosely.

While approaching a BUSY traffic light in front of Pearl Ridge Mall out here in sunny Hawaii I applied right turn signal to make a lane change. There was adequate space in front of a big Ford F 150 bearing down so I eased on over. That seems to have enraged the 'ol local boy driving the truck. He whipped around me and pulled up the passenger side and began screaming a series of oh so eloquent pidgen epithets my way. I casually shook my head and even chuckled a bit in amusement at 'ol boy's antics. That did it! He jumped out of the truck and stomped to my side of the car and began railing at me ever more fiercely. I quickly picked up my cell while pointing to his truck tags as he said, "call the effin cops... you blankety blank Haole". He quickly scampered to the truck and takes off. Yes, I admit I had a few equally flattering things to say in return.

Now, I realize this was no incident justifying the brandishing of a firearm, as if Hawaii would allow anyone access to a loaded weapon while driving, but it has made me keenly aware of something. I recall a few member's similar experiences and if my assumptions are correct, many life threatening senarios begin in just such a manner. If he were just a tad more psycho he could have taken 2 additional steps and been through my window and we'd have "gone to work" right there in my car. By that time it would be far too late to reach for any appropriate animal repellent. ( I keep a box cutter in the glove box but what a farce that would be)

My appreciation for just how quickly reason can deteriorate and devovle into ungliness has increased exponentially. I'm thankful this situation did not get any worse but all too often they can and do. Even a few hours after the incident I'm still quite perturbed and with a bloodstream full of adrenalin I have not completely quit shaking just yet.

Some people's kids!
 
Thank you for enlightening us with this episode.
Psychotic drivers abound in all 50 states.Since I started carrying 14 years ago, I left the realm of the road rage screamers(Admit I was there)and have become a member of "a armed society is a polite society".
It's very,very difficult to keep your temper among today's motoring lunatic's.
But having a .357 Magnum at my side, cools me down and does the job.
You did well under difficult circumstances.
 
I casually shook my head and even chuckled a bit in amusement at 'ol boy's antics.
One take away from this experience is that escalation can take many forms.

Had you instead looked sheepish and mouthed "I'm sorry", the matter likely would have taken a much different direction... or is that asking too much?
 
what did he have to be sorry for? he merged, with ample space. just an a-hole with an ego...i've left plenty of them standing in the street like an idiot as the light turns green and I be gone, smile on my face and a "have a great day sir/ma'am!"
 
BTG3, on normal or other circumstances, I'd agree, but I'm going to have to do the opposite.

I won't bend my will just so some dip**** can go about his day... if he has a problem with me, he can talk it over, or fear from it escalating.
 
People who have not been to Hawaii for longer than a vacation time do not understand that Haoles (White people specifically, any one from mainland US in general) are generally not welcome. I have no doubt that the OP used his blinkers and made a safe and appropriate turn.
 
I quickly picked up my cell while pointing to his truck tags as he said, "call the effin cops... you blankety blank Haole". He quickly scampered to the truck and takes off. Yes, I admit I had a few equally flattering things to say in return.
Good handling of the situation!
 
btg3,


You are so VERY correct. Out here in the common sense depleted region of our hemisphere, you must take very good care of not only what but HOW you say anything. That does go for expressions too.

HOWEVER, I have lived my life backing down in front of people who physically or verbally intimidated me in the past but I'll be damned if I'll live that way again. Of course, common sense will always rule out when warranted. This pudgy local yokel was just letting me know I'm on his turf and that I must bow as he passes. Perhaps there really should only be 49 stars on the flag.

Ever see the movie "Falling Down"? Sometimes I feel like Michael Douglas in that film. I have not snapped to that degree......yet!:evil:
 
Ever see the movie "Falling Down"? Sometimes I feel like Michael Douglas in that film. I have not snapped to that degree......yet!
Well, you don't want to be like the MD character. The moral of that story was that he had become the "bad guy." A "good guy" had become, because of several incidents and decisions he made, the "bad guy." Indisputably, the "bad guy," too.
 
You handled it well. However, don't underestimate the box cutter. Anyone coming in the window would get a Columbian necktie, righteously. Joe
 
35 years

Had enough after one.

Racial hate crimes go unrecognized.

Ignorance is pervasive.

Hillbillys in paradise.

I feel your pain.
 
Like pharmer said, don't underestimate the box cutter.

I've cut myself so many times from being careless after putting in a new razor, I'm surprised I haven't made a trip to the hospital.

Last time I cut myself using a box cutter, it went into my left palm about an 1/8 of an inch deep and 1/4 of an inch long. Half an inch over and I would've hit the dang vein. And the thing of it is, I hadn't even realized I cut myself 'til I'd seen the blood.

A boxcutter may seem small and inadequate, but it can more than do the job if you need to.
 
If saying " I'm sorry" keeps it from escalating to bloodshed, swallow your pride & say I'm sorry. Box cutter or pistol the stakes are way too high.

I've said this before, somebody gets stupid W/ me on the road the first thing I do is literally say out loud (to myself) " I'm carrying a gun if I escalate this at all I'm at fault. " it's amazing how fast that cools my jets.
 
Internet commandos suck.

I have a very low opinion of the hotheaded decision that one should engage in A FIGHT WITH LETHAL WEAPONS just so your "dignity" does not suffer.

First, and least importantly, it will cost a lot of time and money to defend yourself in civil and criminal court. Ask yourself if yelling a response at a rude person is worth 10 grand and six months of worry (even if you win both).

Second, you may be taking someone's life. If someone calls you a cracker, are you willing to kill them? If you are willing to kill them, why? Are you insecure in your non-crackerness? Are you afraid of not "being a man"? Are you afraid of being thought weak? I know I am a man, and I will apologize every time. Pride is a sin.

Finally, and most important, you may lose your life. When you seriously consider it, is it better to die, than allow some dumb-ass to (mistakenly) think you are weak. Is it really better for your wife to be a widow, for your children to be orphaned, and for your parents to stand at the grave of their child than for some idiot to have his rudeness unanswered?

DigitalWarrior
 
I have a very low opinion of the hotheaded decision that one should engage in A FIGHT WITH LETHAL WEAPONS just so your "dignity" does not suffer.
You must be reading different responses than I am, as I dont see anyone advocating getting into a gunfight in this thread.A couple mentioned they dont feel you need to apologize to a road rager, or bow and scrape before them, but thats not even remotely close to saying you should shoot them, or provoke them.

There have been MANY times in my life where I didnt apologize to someone for somethng I didnt actually do, nor would any reasonable person think I did, and I have yet to get into a gun fight becasue of it.Just becasue I dont apologize to, or placate a road rager doesnt mean my only option at that point is to draw my gun, let alone fire it at them. Still PLENTY of other options, number one being simply driving away, or letting them know I'm calling the cops just like the OP did.

He managed to not apologize for doing nothing wrong, yet resolved the situation without getting into a gun fight, so clearly, apologizing or kissing butt is not required to not shoot someone.The OP is proof.Not sure where you get they idea anyone here was sanying anything contrary to that.

OP did a fine job IMHO, and all is well.
 
My vehicle is one of my most effective weapons.. Lots of blunt force trauma can be inflicted by any of a dozen or more fast, easy, and intuitive maneuvers..

Example - Man at window causing problems that causes feeling of perhaps my life is in danger? I'm sitting in right turn lane? Maximum twist to right, put in reverse, floooooooor it.

Man is crunched or thrown, Drive straight, man is pancake. The beauty of a multi-ton piece of metal is that it's a multi-ton piece of metal that moves really fast compared to just about anything, and it doesn't care much about anything <500lbs. If your ol' boy as you state was 500+ pounds, I don't know why you posted, because you could have walked faster than he ever coulda hoped to have walked. Walking to the other side of the passenger compartment might have killed him.

If he's light, and fast, and holds on... Just make our turn really fast.. He aint holding onto that...
 
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Only an ignorant or shallow person
will advise violence in any situation
that may be avoided.
The line between a minor blowup
and a lethal threat can be very unclear and crossed in an instant.

These situations are almost impossible to read second hand.

No actual black and white clear answers.
 
I'm sure chuckling to yourself and shaking your head is taking the high road. Should have done nothing instead of trying to scold the other guy. Obviously he's not a little kid and you're not his daddy. Does adequate space mean 5 feet or 20+? Same rules apply for lane changes as following the car in front of you. Why is some guy going to cuss you out for no reason, unless you cut him off(and then laughed about it and made a suggestive gesture)?.
 
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