MinnMooney
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Ash, I really appreciate the time and effort and knowledge that CB900F & a1abdj bring to this forum. If you dislike their opinions and advise then please look elsewhere for the information that you would like but please don't trash the two people who are trying (& succeding to to some degree) to answer our questions. What, exactly, are you trying to prove?
akodo (post #13) really hit the nail on the head by saying exactly what is running thru a lot of gun owners' minds. We ARE safe-buying neophites and it is difficult to find honest, knowledgable advise when looking for a safe. None of us want a steel box that any moron thief can break into in under 5 minutes (if you don't believe me then look in YouTube and search safe cracking to see a couple of idiots w/a crowbar and a maul) or have it's contents reduced to blackened ash by a house fire. We want a safe that can 1.) keep our weapons out of the hands of children, 2.) Make it a lot of work for a thief to get at the contents when no one is home, 3.) have a reasonable expectation that when we open the safe after a house fire that the contents will be as good as before the fire, 4.) that it has enough room for all of our weapons that we now have plus a little reserve for future purchases, 5.) a lock that opens the 1st time and every time (my elec. lock on my Snap-On doesn't) and, preferably, w/o glasses, and 6.) has a warranty that will cover the safe for repair/replacement if it gets damaged during a fire or break-in attempt. And all of this for a reasonable cost. Like many have said, if you have $1500 in guns and valuables then a $4000 safe makes little sense but when you have $5m - $10m worth of guns and valuables, a worthy safe is a great investment. Remember - a safe is still worth a lot of money 20 - 30 yrs from now when it's passed on to your heirs.
akodo (post #13) really hit the nail on the head by saying exactly what is running thru a lot of gun owners' minds. We ARE safe-buying neophites and it is difficult to find honest, knowledgable advise when looking for a safe. None of us want a steel box that any moron thief can break into in under 5 minutes (if you don't believe me then look in YouTube and search safe cracking to see a couple of idiots w/a crowbar and a maul) or have it's contents reduced to blackened ash by a house fire. We want a safe that can 1.) keep our weapons out of the hands of children, 2.) Make it a lot of work for a thief to get at the contents when no one is home, 3.) have a reasonable expectation that when we open the safe after a house fire that the contents will be as good as before the fire, 4.) that it has enough room for all of our weapons that we now have plus a little reserve for future purchases, 5.) a lock that opens the 1st time and every time (my elec. lock on my Snap-On doesn't) and, preferably, w/o glasses, and 6.) has a warranty that will cover the safe for repair/replacement if it gets damaged during a fire or break-in attempt. And all of this for a reasonable cost. Like many have said, if you have $1500 in guns and valuables then a $4000 safe makes little sense but when you have $5m - $10m worth of guns and valuables, a worthy safe is a great investment. Remember - a safe is still worth a lot of money 20 - 30 yrs from now when it's passed on to your heirs.