Century Arms AK-47 class action lawsuit, bunk though?

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Century is now being sued for a defective safety design on their AK47s. The allegation is that the safety can be pushed far enough to disengage.

Problem is, ONLY WHEN THE DUST COVER IS OFF!. First off, the gun industry has gone through a few of these lately, lawsuits on defective designs. :banghead: Looking at this one however, you have to intentionally remove a part to make it fire.

Article showing the problem is here: http://www.guns.com/2016/02/03/class-action-suit-being-built-against-century-arms/

My question is the following: Is this a bunk lawsuit?

To me it's like taking the brakes off a car, and then blaming the transmission for an accident.

Hoping this gets thrown out of court.
 
Do a little research on the representing attorney and you will have your answer.
 
Not to give the suing party any credit but I've seen plenty of AK's where the safety could easily slip over the dust cover and cause it to fire if tou shove the safety upward not paying attention. Think there's even a video of this happening on a Century AK.
 
The only way I can see the safety being able to be pushed beyond the still attached dust cover is by having it bent out to the point of not even touching the gun when the safety is on or in the fire position. The safety is fine when it's not half removed which it shouldn't be when it's loaded. Monkeys will be monkeys.
 
I remember seeing a video of this on YouTube months ago and thought someone would eventually sue. It's such a simple and inexpensive fix I don't know why they didn't do it in the first place. I'm looking at it from a risk management point of view.
 
The only way I can see the safety being able to be pushed beyond the still attached dust cover is by having it bent out to the point of not even touching the gun when the safety is on or in the fire position. The safety is fine when it's not half removed which it shouldn't be when it's loaded. Monkeys will be monkeys.
All dust covers are not the same. I've seen plenty that the safety would just glide past.
 
What model of Century-built AK is this supposed to be a problem with?

I just tried my Yugo M70AB2 (built by Century on a DCI receiver). Yes, it is not a standard AK47; it is the Yugo version of the AK beefed-up to handle launching grenades.

The detent notch in the receiver stops the safety from going up beyond "safe" before the safety even touchs the dustcover.

The dustcover stops the safety from going up beyond "safe" even if I try to push the safety up from the detent notch.

With the dustcover removed, I can push the safety up but it stops moving at about a 40 degree angle because the pivot bar hits the back of the disconnector hook. At all points in this safety travel, trigger movement is still stopped before it can allow the sear to release the hammer.

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You would have to inattentive to not notice the AK safety swung up in the air way past the "safe" position.
You will still have to pull the trigger to release the hammer. (What are the rules on muzzle awareness and trigger control?)
Anyone who could do this at a range -- swing the safety past safe above the receiver and handle the gun with finger on the trigger -- is an accident in waiting. Or an accident staged for lawsuit purposes. Either way it is fishy.
 
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So basically, they're suing because you can FORCE the gun to fire by pushing the safety way to far in one of 3 conditions:

1) Dust cover off (WHY is there a round in the chamber with the dust cover off?)

2) Bent safety lever (WHY are you using a damaged firearm?)

3) Bent dust cover (WHY are you using a damaged firearm?)

I'd say the case is legitimate IF it happened normally with fresh shipped totally undamaged firearms...but if you have to FORCE it to happen through negligence, or operate a damaged firearm to make it happen...as much as I dislike Century...I don't fault them. As far as the damaged bit...I might get some flak, but lets be honest, would you really in anything but a life-or-death scenario choose to use any other weapon with a damaged dust cover or safety?
 
N003k said:
...I'd say the case is legitimate IF....
What you'd say isn't the point. We discuss what the law actually is and how it actually works.

There is considerable case law discussing how or why a product might be considered defective and thus expose the manufacturer or seller to civil liability. If you'd like to help us all understand how current law on this issue might or might not apply in this lawsuit, and refer us to applicable legal authority on the topic, I'm sure we'd all be grateful.

But your unsupported, personal opinion really doesn't help us.
 
Fair enough Frank!

TLDR: They need to prove centuries design could lead to this result.

My (Non-lawyer) opinion? Century is going to end up settling and changing the safety design, because a wrong jury/judge could be convinced Century could have foreseen this misuse. However, the case is purely codswallop and the lawyer and plaintiff likely know that. Of course, can century PROVE they know that?


Well, my understanding of the Firearms industry liability protection comes down to that there needs to be inadequate instructions/warnings, a manufacturing defect, or it must be defective in design.

So, addressing them one at a time...

From a quick google Centurys instructions for their C39 include never to trust the safety as it may fail. They also warn to check that the firearm is not loaded before field stripping, and to have the gun checked periodically by a professional gunsmith for "worn or damaged parts". Basically... as long as the manual that was provided with the AK's is similar or the same, it sounds like that claim for liability is out as they put ample warnings in place. This MAY also protect them should the part that caused the discharge was worn/damaged. (http://www.centuryarms.com/media/wysiwyg/pdf/C39_Series_of_Rifles_Manual_FINAL.pdf)

For manufacturing defect. For this, according to Cornell's legal dictionary, it has to meet the following definition: "a manufacturing defect is a defect in a product that was not intended. This kind of defect occurs when a product departs from its intended design and is more dangerous than consumers expect the product to be." (https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/manufacturing_defect)

Leaving, a defective design, which, without reading the actual complaint, I assume is the claim being made. In this case there's a need to prove that the risk was foreseeable by the manufacturer, and whether it was possible and reasonable to reduce the risk.

Now, clearly there are available alternatives for the part that would prevent this from happening...so if the court decides the manufacturer is liable for a defective design, they're likely to lose significantly.

Leaving...was there a reasonable ability for the manufacturer to foresee the risk. That's hard to say, and even if they do believe Century bears partial liability for negligence, the owners, if using worn or improperly operating the firearms could bear a level of the liability for their own negligence.

Of course, if the firearms are purchased "new", and functioned in an unsafe way (safety could be pushed past the point triggering the hammer) then the risk to Century appears to be higher as Century would then have to defend against the product being a manufacturing defect.

So, to my understanding the plaintiffs have to prove that the risk was foreseeable (I would say no, but I'm not the one deciding, and that can go so many different ways its not funny), that it was possible to reduce or eliminate the risk (Definitely possible), and that Century bears some degree of liability for their negligence (What is a reasonable period of time to go between checks by a professional gunsmith? Were the warnings specific enough to prevent injury had they been followed?) and whether the plaintiffs hold any liability for their own negligence, and if so, how much? (Easy for us to say they do since it seems blatantly obvious you shouldn't push the safety that far, but is it going to be obvious to those deciding the case?)

So...really...what it comes down to is can the lawyer prove to the court that the gun was used in a way that a normal consumer would use it and that caused the gun to fire? I'd say no. Additionally...one of the warnings in the manual above is "WARNING! The safety lever should not extend below the safety lever stop on
the bottom of the receiver or rise past the receiver cover. If this occurs, have the rifle inspected by a competent gunsmith before further use."

If Century can prove that the plaintiff did not abide by the product warnings...and depending on the level of liability placed upon the manufacturer by the court.

The complaint was filed in Florida, and it seems that Florida applies Strict Liability to product liablity suits...which by their standards means all the lawyer has to do is that "A product is unreasonably dangerous if the product fails to perform as safely as an ordinary consumer would expect when used as intended or in a manner reasonably foreseeable by the manufacturer"(http://corporate.findlaw.com/litiga...g-defects-vs-design.html#sthash.Q58N2wvE.dpuf), and while Florida does have a Firearms industry liability law (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...ng=&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.331.html) IF the plaintiff can prove that there is a defect of design...IF.
 
Could the design of the safety on the WASR 10 be used as evidence that the Century safety is a defective design?
 
Allow me to predict the response of Century's lawyers:
"Well, then why don't you fly over to Russia and take it up with Mr. Kalashnikov's next-of-kin?"

It is clearly a design flaw (easily argued as more of a quirk, to be honest) inherent to the original design which has been & will continue to remain in service in this nation and abroad. Responsible adherence to proper operation and maintenance of the weapon (making sure the safety stays between its detents, for example) as well as responsible & safe operation (not manipulating the trigger group or selector with the gun loaded & pointed at something important) moot the issue entirely.

And unlike the case with Remington triggers (where the same disclaimers about function-checks and maintenance are completely valid & moot that issue) there was no pretense of a cover-up, and also no in-house design work. These designs are derived from ATF-approved recreations of original AKMs, using original parts in most cases.

If someone wants to sue Century, why the heck are they going with this instead of their awful Galils, CETMEs, MAS49/56s? Those actually had legit safety-upon-delivery type of issues, like badly-out of spec chambers & missing barrel pins even the Soviets would toss into the scrap crucible (along with the drunken peasant responsible :eek:)

TCB
 
My M70AB2 (built by Century on a DCI receiver not made by Century) has notches in the receiver that detain the safety (safety/selector/slot cover catch) at up S "safe" and middle F "fire" semi-auto only.

The "defect" I see in the illustration that accompanies that article is that particular AK-47 rifle does not have a notch to detain the safety at S "safe" but relies on the safety hitting the receiver cover.

Looking in Small Arms of the World (1966) at Bulgarian and North Korean AK-47s and a Chinese Type 58 AK and in a Special Forces manual at a Soviet AKM, there are notches on the receiver to detain the safety in middle full and bottom semi positions, but no notch for top safe position. I would presume from those samples it is standard for the AK-47 not to have a notch on the receiver to detain the the safety at safe but to rely on the safety being stopped by the receiver cover.

There's a gun show at the Civic Auditorium Saturday. I may check out the various Kalashnikovs there.
 
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