Century arms: really how bad are they

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Im looking to buy an ak and as you know century allways has the best buy. But i hear most people say to stay away from them. I would like to know how bad they are from people with experience to know if i should go for one or spend another $200.
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i got 2 aks from thhem a draco and a amd65 both were excellent purchases for the price
 
I was in the Century camp for a VZ58 parts rifle.
It went bang. Had some good groups. Got board with the rifle, and couldn't stand the heat from the forearm. I sold it.
Also the front sight was canted.
 
I have CAI FAL and it's very good, a CAI AK and it's very good. Some people have had problems with CAI guns but it just seems to depend on the individual gun.
 
century imports alot of stuff. I have a number of things that are marked as having been imported by Century. Never had a problem with any of them.
 
Like any gun purchase, you never know what you are gonna get if you order it.. I've heard of people buying firearms from WELL respected builders which I wont say...and had some issues with their rifles...

It's all about what kind of customer service and support you get if something goes wrong with your firearm from that particular builder or company...

I have an AK that I bought 2years ago built by CAI which till this day had no issues whatsoever... I was lucky enough to check it out and buy it at a local gun store... I heard that CAI has cleaned up and tightened up their builds...

Good Luck on your next purchase!:D
 
Firearms imported by Century Arms International will generally be good-to-go.

Firearms made from surplus parts kits by Century Arms International can be good or bad, depending on what type of firearm it is and when it was made.
 
Some of my most reliable imports say Century on them. Excellent service when something did go wrong years ago. That has kept my opinion high on them since.
 
I have a few guns which came through CAI. Never had problems.
WASR GP10/63 has always run like a champ and the front sight is straight.
Actually, the only thing I have from Century with any issue at all is an old .32acp Carpati M1974 pistol. Century marked it with an electric pencil as 'FEG HUNGARY' on the frame. It is a Romanian Carpati M1974, one of those made for the German police, then later sold as surplus. Shoots very well though.
 
For what its worth, I met a local Century Arms salesman through armslist, and he was very creative. Sold me some stuff, got home and realized he had lied about a few pieces. I should have looked closer.

Maybe you could call him a typical salesman squeezing out maximum commission by exaggerating the truth, but I hope Century Arms does not make a practice of hiring guys like him. They don't really help the reputation of their company.
 
Century imports a LOT of guns, and they build (or cobble together, however you want to say it) a bunch of guns too. Their imports have been consistently good, because they were built by the original factory somewhere and if they were rebuilt along the way it was by a government arsenal. Hard to screw up a gun just importing it.

But full auto, modern military rifles obviously can't be imported and sold to the citizens, and semi-auto clones of modern military autos can't be simply imported either due to federal law. There are two ways around that problem. Either the gun is redesigned to be a "sporting" weapon (lower mag capacity, thumbhole stocks, etc.) like a Saiga, or the gun is imported as a pile of parts and must be rebuilt into a working firearm on a new receiver here in the US. In either case there is a fair bit of monkeying around required to put what was once a military automatic assault rifle into the hands of a US citizen buyer as a semi-auto version of that gun.

Century has a bad rep for quality control when it comes to that kind of modification & rebuilding work. The very best advice is to know what the problem areas are to look for and inspect a gun carefully before you buy it.

The most infuriating factor, though, may be CAI's warranty policy. Their guns are warrantied for a year from the date of manufacture, not purchase. Many of their guns spend a big part of that year in warehouses, distributors' hands, in shipping, and in dealers' inventories. It is quite possible to buy one and call a month later with a problem only to discover that there is no warranty left. (See here: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=658364)
 
I have one of there C93's that will not fire two rounds in a row. Jams up every time no matter what mag I use with it. It sat in my safe for a year before I fired it so I don't think they will be to willing to help me on it. But I have not asked (I am deployed and will not be home for a while). So I can either spend more on it and have someone rebuild it and get it to work or cut it up and sell it as parts. Have to see how it all works out when I get home.

I had one of there Fals years back that had a head space issue. I had it rebuilt as it was made with an Imbel recever and it was good to go.

C91 (H&K 91) that looks like the bolt head was ground to get it to gap right. But I have not shot this one either.


You would think I would learn??
WB
 
The problem with Century is not that they occasionally make a mistake, it's that they put out some totally hack crap that a reputable company would absolutely never ever ship to a customer. Stuff that is dangerous. That tells me all I need to know.
 
Anything you can buy direct from Century you can usually buy cheaper from one of their distributors.

"Customer Service" is pretty much non-existent. Your order will ship, when it ships, and not a minute sooner ... and you'll never know when that is.

To say their packaging "sucks" is a great insult to all those whose packaging merely sucks.

Their "stuff" is fine ... it's just all the rest that is lacking.
 
In answer to the OP's question, I would suggest you spend the extra money if possible. If the budget is limited perhaps look into some other companies like TGI or Atlantic.
 
Try centerfire systems, same guns, better quality. I had an AK underfolder from them, it was the Polish make. The gun was pretty much perfect, nice finish and good wood.
 
I bought a CAI WASR 10/63 at a LGS a couple years or so ago. I wouldn't order one online because there's no way to check it over thoroughly before buying it. I paid a little more to buy at the LGS but I didn't encounter any of the usual CAI problems. Did discover a couple hiccups after I shot it, which were not the usual CAI type troubles but I was able to fix them myself and I got a good gun out of it.
 
A perfectly fine importer forced to become an ad-hoc manufacturer due to federal law. So basically you may end up having to re-do some of the work they are forced to do to make imports compliant. Canted sights are a problem I've seen on many CAI imported semis. OTOH the arms they don't have to mess with tend to be as good (or bad) as they were before export.
 
When Century was was selling their ahhhhhh "assembled' CETME rifles was when they got the "Angry Drunken Monkey Gunsmiting" reputation.

I 'owned' a CETME for 18 months for 17-1/2of those months " My " CETME was in 1 of 3 places...in transit to Century, at Century, in transit from Century.

Now, the M-44 Mosin imported by them was darn near perfect.
 
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I have the Century Arms G3 (HK 91 clone) and it uses many of the HK parts. I actually really like it even with some of its shortcomings. I couldn't come close to affording a real HK, so I'll take a few minor issues to own something very close in the Century Arms model.

Another semi-positive, I've learned a lot about the gun, bolt gap in particular, and have even done some minor gunsmithing to improve the gap to in spec. Nice to get to know your guns more intimately. (-:
 
I just received an FAL last night that has an imbel receiver "imported by CAI". I knew about Century before I ordered, and if the gun weren't pristine, with an Imbel receiver, for a great price, I never would have bothered....I figured for the price it was worth the gamble of getting either a gun or a good receiver and parts kit...First round out of the gun had a minor failure to eject, clicked it from 3 to 4 on the gas regulator, so far so good. From the research I've done, the Imbel FAL's from CAI were the "best" ones, and for the money, besides the HORRIBLE plastic furniture, the gun shoots just fine
 
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