Chamber Adapters

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I saw mention in another thread something about using chamber inserts/adapters to fire cheap(er) pistol ammo in a rifle. Specifically, shooting .32 ammo in a 30-06.

I know the scope would have to be re-adjusted, but what other issues arise when using one of these? How reliable are they? Do all chamber adapters need a broken shell extractor to remove the adapter? And, where can you get a decent quality chamber adapter?

Yeah, I know, alot of questions, but I really don't want to get one of these and mess up a decent rifle just so I can shoot cheaper ammo.
 
They are truely single shot, in that the adapter is similar in exterior dimensions to a spent casing. On the interior, it is a subcaliber chamber - so when the subcaliber gets fired, the casing expands in the adapter/larger casing...and without a newfangled double-extractor, your rifle won't handle ejecting one from the other from the gun.

Depending on where i'm shooting, i either drive a large nail into the bench a half inch, and just bring the adapter down on it, pushing out the spent case from inside it; or if it isn't appropriate to be drivin' nails, i just use a pistol cleaning rod or a screwdriver to push it out.

Also, your rifle's ejector will probably tear up the adapter's rim long before the adaptor tears up your ejector, in my experience.

I'd be careful of bullet diameters between .308/.309/.311/.312; but you can read about those in detail elsewhere depending on what you go with - .32 is quieter, but not as cheap or corrosive as surplus 7.62x25 Tokarev. Tok out of a 18" or 22" barrel really zips; but is not as accurate as what the rifle was intended for, IME.
 
I always wanted to try out one of those caliber conversion chamber inserts but never had the opportunity nor a rifle I was willing to experiment with. I recently picked up a NEF Handi-Rifle Survivor model in .308 Win so I had my chance.

I had first seen these made by MCA Sports (http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm) but had never ordered one. They have now popped up in the Sportsmans Guide (Shooting Supplies, Shooting Accessories, Rifle Chamber Insert at Sportsman's Guide) which made ordering easier and so I sent off for a .308 to .32 ACP insert.

The insert arrived and it looked like the MCA product, though there is no manufacturer’s mark. It was marked "made in USA". Brief instructions included stated that some stoning may be needed to chamber in some firearms. This was the case for mine. After some very light swipes on 220 grit sand paper, the insert chambered perfectly into my Handi-Rifle. It was then off to the range.

I fired two rounds of .308 to get a baseline for the target. I had picked up the rifle used and already scoped. It was shooting about 5" high for me at 50 yards. This was fine as I anticipated the .32 ACP would be hitting much lower.

I had with me some Fiocchi 73 gr FMJ and a few rounds of Speer Gold Dot 60 gr HP. The Fiocchi was difficult to fully seat in the adapter and I could not fully close the rifle with that round. I assume this is an OAL or case length issue. Next the Speer was tried and they worked much better, though many were a little tight.

I fired a total of seven .32 ACP rounds. Recoil was akin to an air rifle or heavy barreled .22LR. You knew you were shooting but barely. Muzzle blast was less than a standard velocity .22 and was very similar in sound level to or even lower than a suppressed 9mm carbine. It was quiet enough to turn heads on the firing line.



Accuracy was surprising. The point of impact was 11" below that of the .308 rounds with no significant change in windage. The first two rounds were a little higher than the next five, due I think to the shooter settling in and paying attention. The five shot group at 50 yards was just over an inch. If I had used a bi-pod or solid rifle rest, I feel this would have tightened up some.
 
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I have a .22 LR insert for a TC contender in .223. The thing is quite accurate but a vastly different POA. The thing is slow as Christmas to use however. Too troublesome for me to use very much.
 
I've heard about an adaptor for the Mosin-Nagant, allowing it to shoot 7.62x25 rather than the typical 7.62x54r. Is there an adapter for 7.62x39 for the Mosin-Nagant? If there is, I would love one.
 
I've heard about an adaptor for the Mosin-Nagant, allowing it to shoot 7.62x25 rather than the typical 7.62x54r. Is there an adapter for 7.62x39 for the Mosin-Nagant? If there is, I would love one.
Not that I've heard of, but the advertise 7.62x39 in a .30-06 or .308 somehow...
 
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