Cheap 150grain 30-06 hunting ammo question?

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WHAT is the best CHEAP (yet reliable) ammo in 30-06 150grainers?

I got myself a new Rem700 in 30-06 and I'm thinking of Elk this year.

My original plan was to get a bunch of cheap FMJ for practice, then a box of Nosler partitions for hunting. But, I'm changing my mind.

WHAT is the best CHEAP (yet reliable) ammo in 30-06 150grainers? (yes I like the lighter/flatter 150's). Something that could be used as well for (inexpensive) target blasting as hunting.

Because in ALL HONESTY, just about anything (with some expansion like a SP) from the -06 (at the <300yds I shoot) will be fine. So, I might as well just buy something that I can sight in for hunting AND use target plinking.
Something cheap yet reliable. I want to shoot maybe 20 or 30 boxes a year plinking...plus hunting.

What say YOU? :)
 
Yes, the Remington Express 150 grain corelokts work quite well at the ranges you
are specifying. We have used them successfully even a little farther than that on elk (and large ones at that).
More than one 30/06 tends to favor Remington brass and will qute often shoot those corelokts as well as any other bullet. Some guns will tend to shoot their best groups after 10-12 rounds, so if you are not pleased after 4 or 5, hang in there a bit longer. They are available as a component bullet as well if you decide to reload in the future. Save your brass in any case. Best
A 200 yd. zero puts you about 2 in. high at 100 yds, 3 inches low at 250 yds and 8.5 inches low at 300 yds, 25 inches low at 400 yds.
 
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I bought some el-cheapo Serbian .30-06 a while back; I use it for shooting pigs, and it opens 'em up just fine. A bit dirty, but other than that, I have no complaints. Pretty consistent in terms of performance. I think I paid $7/box or so--but that was before the Great Ammunition Drought.
 
Yes! $18 a box would be better. I about choked when I saw Federals up around the $40 mark. Started me thinking .

Nathanael, were those Serbian's ball ammo/FMJ? I gotta have something that will expand a bit.

I like the Remington Core-locked in the past. I didn't realize they were still somewhat inexpensive. I'll check into those.

Any other recommendations are also welcome! :D
 
Ive been getting some plain winchester powerpoints from kmart for around $18. They have been runing quite well in both my .243 and my 06. They are only available in 180 out here, but thats the weight i like for my 30 cals anyway. Back when i was living on Molokai and was hunting literally all the time i used 165gr corelokts religiously.
 
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Yes, and you could easily recoup 5.00 a box from the once fired Rem. brass from someone
who does reload. They can be reloaded for a bit less than 10.00 a box with the same core lokt bullets ( based on 10 reloads for the brass ).
 
I wouldn't use a light, cheap bullet for elk. If I had to have cheap, I would look into a 180+ grain bullet. If I had to have light, I would buy a box of premium ammo and use half of it to make sure that it shoots to the same point of aim as the cheap stuff I bought for practice.
 
I wouldn't use a light, cheap bullet for elk. If I had to have cheap, I would look into a 180+ grain bullet

To each his own, but I've killed 10 elk in Arizona, and 9 of them have been with 150gr "non-premium" bullets. Most were Hornady interlocks (handloaded) but a few were Remingon Core-lokts. In my opinion it is hard to beat the price/reliability ratio of the Remington Core-lokt. They run like $17 or $18 a box at Wal-mart. If you don't reload I think they are the way to go. 150gr and 165gr bullets will kill elk just fine. I've never shot one with more than a 150gr bullet...until this year (probably).
 
I have had good luck with 150 grain Core Lokts and Winchester Power Points on deer. I use a 180 Partition on elk.
 
Some guns will tend to shoot their best groups after 10-12 rounds, so if you are not pleased after 4 or 5, hang in there a bit longer.
I found this to be the case in my rifle. I was getting 2-3" groups at 100 yards. Ran about 40 rounds through my Howa and got down to .74-1" groups.
 
Remington Core-lokt. They run like $17 or $18 a box at Wal-mart. If you don't reload I think they are the way to go. 150gr and 165gr bullets will kill elk just fine.
This is what I'm thinking. I also have an old Mauser in 30-06 (sporterized) and I don't want to shoot full 180's or 200's out of it, and I want to "standardize" on one type of ammo for AZ hunting and target shooting (sighting in) for both rifles...so I'm thinking the 150's will be adequate for all but another Alaska hunt...and will be good for everything in the lower 48 states. I don't reload (except shotgun)...so sounds like Rem Corelockts.

As much as I hate Wal-Mart though...I'll probably pay a couple $$ more somewhere else (and that's okay!) Or I'll send the wife after them at WalZoo. :cool: Yep, getting too old for it...to cranky.
 
I am also a core-lokt man. I also agree with the philosophy of test a few boxes of different brands. My 1903-A3 will shoot core-lokts into a comfortable MOA. I worked at a gun store and we'd special order guns and scopes for people wholesale then slip some orders in for ourselves to get a piggy-back on the customer's shipping. The wholesaler mistakingly sent me three boxes of Federal Premium 30-06 instead of the American eagle 150 grains I planned to shoot in my Garand. Called the distributor and he said keep em. Woo-hoo...I took them to the range and couldn't keep them in 3 inches at 100 yards. I started thinking scope problems...etc. Fired 3 rounds of the 150 core-lokts in the same rifle the same session and the group shrank back down to less but around an inch. I have another 1903 and the Fed Premiums shot in that rifle like the core-lokts.

The only Elk I've ever been close to was at a petting zoo so I am not prepared to advise anyone on bullets or loads but core-lokts have been used to take trainloads Elk long before some of the premium bullet designers were born.

Bexar
 
Another brand id forgoten about, that have been very accurate in my 7mag are the UMCs, dont know about terminal performance one bit tho, paper and water bottles dont generally run after the first shot. but yes trying as many of brands as you can gets probobly a good idea.
 
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Never shot an Elk because we have none in my country. Instead, we have lots of wild boars, that are quite smaller than an elk, but no one here uses less than 180 grains bullets in 30.06 sprg. (and we usually shoot at no more than 150 meters away). I fact, I never saw 150, 165 or 168 grains bullets (in 30.06), and I hunt for more than 15 years.

And I tell you why, using a very recent example: generally I use the cheapest ammo (prvi partizan, sellier & bellot – usually east Europe ammo) to shoot targets and more expensive ammo (federal or norma) on game, all with 180gr bullets. Obviously, I choose ammo with the same impact point, so I can switch between the cheap and the expensive ammo without surprises, lol.

Two weeks ago I spend the entire afternoon shooting prvi partisan ammo to pinpoint the scope (3-12x56), and when the night came I went to the bushes waiting for wild boars. I have a semi-auto rifle so that night I put 2 federal trophy tip bullets in the magazine and one prvi partizan in the chamber – the scope was so fine tuned that I thought that I would kill a rabbit in the eye, lol.

About 11.30pm a big boar appeared on the horizon and started to descend the hill, stopping at the middle. As the moon was not too high, there were some shadows and I couldn’t see the piggy very well (the distance was about 100 meters). But I decided to take the shot anyway. Forgetting that I was about to shoot a prvi partizan, I aimed to the front left leg.

The prvi partizan has a soft point and doesn’t have a bonded core, so expands very rapidly and fragments when hit hard surfaces. When my bullet hit the boar he dropped instantly, because he absorbed all energy. After the glare from muzzle I could see clearly the boar laying in the ground, so I laid down the gun and look for my cell phone. As I was doing that, the boar gather some strength and dragged it self to a heavy bush area near by. I call some friends with dogs and although the boar was right there, no more than 70 or 80 meters from the point he was shot down, we couldn’t find him (the bush was so heavy that we were carrying the dogs in our arms, and if we drop them they wouldn’t reach the ground by 50 cm or more lololol).

What happened was that the pvri partizan hit the boar in the front leg, on heavy muscle and bone area, expanded very rapidly and didn’t penetrate enough. A federal trophy tip, at that angle, would most likely pierced the boar one side to another (90% of bonded bullets exit the boars no matter the size, distance or angle), dropping him permanently in his tracks.

When shooting the boar, if I remembered that there was a prvi in the chamber, I would aim at the “soft engine room”, at lungs. There would be probably a run, yes, but for no more than 20 or 30 meters. And I would bring that 90 or 100kg of bacon home.

So, if you are thinking of using light bullets, do your math well. What you put in chamber determines what comes home at the end of the day, or night.

Ps: Federal ammo (with bonded bullets), here in Portugal, is about 80 euros a box of 20 rounds (1 euro is 1.25 dollars, more or less). But we can get them for 50 if we always buy from the same store, with discount. Prvi is sold for about 25 euros, but we can get them at 18 euros. Try to buy ammo from same store, to get discounts from seller. Don’t use supermarkets.
 
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Cheap '06 for Elk?

Federal Fusion is right around $24 a box; use the 165 gr.
Hornady 150 or 165 gr SST runs $26 or a tick less.
Remington Core Lokt 150 gr varies between $19 and $22.

All will group well, all will get the job done on target. My preference is for the 165 gr SST, but use whatever your rifle likes the best.
 
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20-30 boxes per year at $20/box - is $400-600 - more than enough to buy reloading equipment and tailor whatever load you want (or several for different things) and still have some money left over
 
Yes! $18 a box would be better. I about choked when I saw Federals up around the $40 mark.


This is just the premium line of Federals. The ones in the blue box are less than a 20 dollar bill around here. It's good ammo too. That being said, I do like the Core Lockts if I have to have factory ammo. I'm gonna get me some to load too.
 
Back in the early 80's I used the money from my first real job to buy a 30-06. Over the next 10 years I honestly do not know how many deer I killed using simple 150 gr Remington Cor-Lokts but it was a lot. (We used to be able to kill a buck and a doe per day in Alabama) They never failed me if I put a bullet where it needed to go.
 
For inexpensive hunting ammo from the .30/06, you'll not be able to improve over the Remington and Federal standard loads.

Academy Sports sells the PriviPartisan ammo (Serbian) under the Monarch brand. I've reloaded/shot the 150 and 165gr bullets as available from Grafs & Sons. They're not especially accurate but are adequate for shooting deer. (1.5-2" groups from my 2 -'06's). Of the two, I'd go with the 165gr BTSP bullet.

For elk, you'll do better to select either a 165gr or 180gr bullet. The cost is essentially the same, but the heavier bullets will penetrate a great deal better on a less than perfect shot. The 180gr Corlokt from the .30/06 has been the gold-standard for big game for over 50yrs.

I'd not try to sight-in with a FMJ, and then hunt with a different bullet/load. Skip the FMJ's and just shoot/sight-in with the hunting ammo. The FMJ's are typically loaded with a different powder for functioning in Semi-Auto mil-spec rifles (M1-Garrands) and the FMJ's are typically not nearly as accurate as the soft-point hunting ammo. Just buy several boxes of the same 150gr (I'd recommend the 150gr Remington CorLokts or better yet the 165gr and 180gr for elk) and sight-in a and practice with those. By the time you re-sight the gun for the different loads (yes, they can impact as much as 6" differently at 100yds!) you'll have lost the cost saving advantage.

I haven't found a bullet that performs any better from my .300RemUltMag at 3,200fps than the plain old Remington 180gr Corlokts........(purchased in bulk from MidwayUSA and loaded over surplus military powder) Go figure!
 
shot my cow elk at 450 yards with 150 grain spitzer boat tail, dont believe the hype in needing big bullets for elk, one shot i dropped my cow like a box of rocks. people hunt elk with 243 and 25 calibers those are light bullets 90-120 grains, so dont worry a good stout soft point bullet will do fine against any elk.
 
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