Cheap long range caliber

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I was wondering what a cheap long range weapon/caliber is for competition shooting. So far i'm thinking a mosin with 7.63x54r. What would be a better caliber.



Also is it easier to get a new stock the scope a mosin, or just get the reall expensive original mount?
 
What kind of competition?
What do you call "long range?" (The NRA definition is 800 - 1000 yards)

There are some military rifle matches that a good MN and superior ammuniton would be good for, but you would not be competitive in regular matches versus match grade service rifles or match rifles at ten times the cost.

Suggest you find out what kind of event is available in your area before you start spending money.
 
I have shot NRA F-class (alongside Long Range and Palma shooters) at AEDC, Tullahoma, TN, and at MSSA, Memphis and would like to get to one of the thousand yard matches at Oak Ridge.

http://www.memphis-ssa.com/
http://orsahp.com/default.aspx

Warren County Rifle Club that runs matches at AEDC does not have a website that I know of, their point of contact is Chris Hayes [email protected]

I haven't seen anything you could get into on the cheap, unfortunately.

You might contact them and ask.
 
I don't think so.

You can read on the Internet about fabulous shooting being done with MNs but the few I have personally seen in action did not have what it takes to shoot at true long range.

As I said, there are matches for unaltered military rifles you could join, if you can find one.

Or you can save up and get something modern.

I suggest you visit the nearest rifle club and get acquainted.
 
Plenty of 54R, in fact most of it, is non-corrosive.

That being said, yeah I don't really see taking a Mosin out past 300yds without a LOT of work to turn it into something it's not.
 
If you find a Finnish Mosin, you might find a good shooter. They are more expensive than other Mosins, though, and you'd still need to find good ammunition. Very accurate ammunition is rarely cheap in any caliber.

John
 
I suggest looking for a used Remington 700V, chambered in 6mm Remington. You should be able to locate one for the same price as a Fin Mosin, and it has the heavy barrel to dampen vibration. I used one of these rifles for deer and varmint hunting back in the late 1980s, and it was ultra-accurate (3/8" at 300 yards), and that was using 95 grain Nosler Partitions.

Edit to add, I have heard that the .260 Remington is also extremely accurate. You could rebarrel it into a 26-.284 Win. Just some options.

JMHO

Doc2005
 
Before you start worrying about gear, you need to find out two things:

- What sort of rifle competition do you want to get into?

- Are there any of these competitions held at nearby local ranges?

If you can, see if you can meet up with someone via THR or another forum who is a serious competition shooter in whatever game interests you. Find out when local matches are held, and go attend one, even if you only watch. This will give you an idea as to whether or not you'd be interested in pursuing it further.

If you want to get a decent idea of the sorts of competitions available, check this thread which is our attempt to put together a comprehensive list of the various forms of competitive shooting games, along with links to help you get started.

You can certainly get started in some of these competitions with your Mosin, and you'll be lightyears ahead of all the guys with Mosins who don't shoot them at all, or only plink, but it won't be long before you find that particular rifle lacking.
 
Are you planning to compete in military bolt matches or buying an affordable rifle/scope to shoot in other target comp.?
 
well i want something cheap [both rifle and ammo]. That i can use for long range comp [100-600 yd]. Looking at f class comp atm. The look pretty good their are some groups nearby. I also may try to hunt, hence the mosin. It's a good caliber for hunting from what i've heard.
 
Here is our website for the Oak Ridge Sportsmans Club, we have a 1000 yard range and matches ranging from 1000 yard matches, 600 yard matches, across the course NRA matches (200, 300, and 600), Garand Matches, Vintage Military Rifle Matches, which you would shoot with that gun, Springfield Matches, all fired at 200 yards, then a Carbine Match fired at 100 yards, sched is listed on website.

http://orsahp.com/default.aspx
 
Cool. Is a mosin able to get accurate enough to do that kind of shooting?
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No. Even though the 1000 yard target frame is eight by eight feet, it is exceedingly hard to hit. Just hitting the target is an accomplishment first time out with a new rifle. You make your best 1000 yard elevation guess, look at the wind conditions, and pray the first shot will hit the target. Many times people do not.

Then it gets frustrating for all. The guys in the pits can hear berm shots, but they cannot tell you if the bullet is left, right, or over the target. Too many bullets snapping around.

Sometimes your scorer can help and follow the bullet trace, through his spotting scope. But it takes perfect light and wind conditions to see it.

Nothing more frustrating to see a guy use up all of his 25 minute period and not be on target.

Your rifle does not have windage adjustment, or fine elevation adjustment. That just makes it harder.
 
Shevrock,
Find out what matches are in your area. Find the contact person. Go to a match. I was able to rent an AR15 for $5.00 & shoot a match.

I shot in competition for the first time this year.
1 Vintage Military Rifle Match - My Rifle
1 NRA Highpower 200 Yard Match - Rental AR
1 PPC Pistol Match - Borrowed Glock

I enjoyed the matches but I am going to shoot some other types of matches just to see what they are like. The PPC was the least physically & financially demanding. Vintage was a good deal $15 and they provided the ammo.

The level of shooting is humbling. The quality of people there is something that is nice to be around.

Be prepared to get beaten by a variety of folk from 13 year old girls to 80 year old men.

Good Luck,
WNTFW
 
The guys in the pits can hear berm shots, but they cannot tell you if the bullet is left, right, or over the target.
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SlamFire1,

Don't know where you do your LR shooting, but at the 1k range in Bodines, PA, we have a dirt backstop behind the targets, and all shots left, right, and above the target are clearly visable to both the guys in the pits and the shooter's spotter. Berm shots, on the other hand, are "iffy".

Don
 
That's a luxury. The two places I have shot the most (AEDC, Tennessee, and Ft Benning Georgia) do not have back berms and all you have to go by in the pits is the sound. A GOOD spotter can watch the "trace" of your bullet well enough to get you on paper.
 
The level of shooting is humbling. The quality of people there is something that is nice to be around.

Be prepared to get beaten by a variety of folk from 13 year old girls to 80 year old men.
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Oh yeah...many times over. Don't feel bad, you're not the only one
 
K31?
Not real cheap on either ammo or the rifle but best accuracy for the buck probably.
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i was thinking this as well, im also after a k31, i have a k11 and it is nice, reload your own and the cost will drop some what, gun run $175-600. there are alot out here for $200-250
 
I've been shooting NRA LR for a number of years, and have not found that the word "cheap" is really part of the equation. FWIW, the unmodified .260 Rem is a really nice LR cartridge. Not sure if it's really cheap or not, but a lot better than most LR rifles/cartridges.
 
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