Cheap tack/nail driver?

[cracked butt]

K-31
Iron sights are not a handicap to a person with decent eyesight who learns to shoot with them. Heck I'm pretty badly nearsighted and can hit golfball sized targets at 100 yards with iron sights without a problem, just put the tiny blurry object on top of the sharply focused front sight.

Ok so there are still companys making loads for the k31 right?

Word on the street is that Wolf is gearing up to produce 7.5x55 ammo and could be available by later this year. Its kind of a gamble because I could be wrong and the ammo may never come out, or you can wait to see if it comes out, and K-31s will no longer be available.

Let me just take a stab in the dark and say I would like to be able to hit with in 6 inches at 500 yards. Keep in mind this is only a stab in the dark. If this is to much to expect out of a k31 or any milsurp riffle let me know what I should expect from it.

If you were to shoot at a 6" plate or gong at 500 yards, the K-31 is perfectly capable of it, but the shooter must be capable of it to make it happen.

 

[hcker2000]

Thats exactly what I wan't is some thing that will force me to take my time and learn the proper way to shoot things at 500 yards.

How long do you think I have before it will be hard to find a k31 riffle? Probably hard to say but if some one thinks it is going to be soon and has a good reason then I will save more each pay to buy one so I don't miss out.

 

[longhorngunman]

I'f you want one get it now. 6 months ago nearly every milsurp supplier on the net had the K31's. Now I can only find a couple. Ones out now are a little rougher than the earlier ones. Mine had a little rust on it, but it cleaned up nice and the rifling is perfect. I remember reading several sources(google it on the net) that is Winchester, ruger, Browning, etc were to produce these rifles today, that with the quality of the metal, workmanship, etc they would have to sell them between $1,500 and $2,000 a pop to make a profit.

 

[hcker2000]

Now thats is a pricy gun

Any one in central ohio with a licence? or am I gona have to check dunhams agine.

 

[cracked butt]

Dunham's should be getting them in again. All of them in my area were sold out of them for at least the last month, but today I stopped in a store and found one on the rack. The one example they had didn't look real nice though, in much rougher shape than the ones I bought months back.

 

[hcker2000]

So long as the bore and mettle parts are good I can alway fix up the stock or even re-make one if need be.

 

[longhorngunman]

hacker2000, If your in Ohio check out Aimsurplus or Southern Ohio Gun. There both based in Ohio, I'm not sure exactly where. I thank God on nearly a daily basis for you good people in Ohio. If not for ya'll I'd be in a world of despair thinking what "President Kerry" and his minions were doing to take our rights away. I have my pet peeves with Bush but compared to the alternative I'm a happy camper.

 

[Dave R]

How long do you think I have before it will be hard to find a k31 riffle?

Well, I woulda said half-hour, but Aim Surplus is out of them right now. But they are taking pre-orders...

If you can't find someone convenient to you that carries them, call around to the local gun shops and find one that will do an "FFL Transfer" for you.

Then call AIM Surplus and order it from them, and have it shipped to your FFL to do the transfer for you. That's how I got mine. The local FFL charged $20 for the transfer. AIM charged $79 for the rifle, and $16 for the shipping.

Here's Aim's website. http://www.aimsurplus.com/

So if your local store has one for less than $120 or so, you may be ahead.

You can usually find a few at a gun show, too.

 

[hcker2000]

I'm going to call buckeye outdoors tomarow and see what they got in stock and prices. The ammo thing wories me a bit. If all sources of ammo dry up would any one be willing to produce low quantitys of it (say 20-50 rounds at a time)?

 

[hcker2000]

I forgot about this tell just now. Buckeye outdoors lets you put guns on layaway. Even if I can't afford to buy it out right in the next two weeks (wife dose the bills ) then I can always throw it in lay away to make sure I get one before they are gone.

 

[Commissar Gribb]

Commisar,

Is that a large ring action?

I am thinking of grabbing one of them and doing the conversion to 45 Winmag with that kit that is being sold. You use M-1 Carbine mags and even comes with a 18" barrel. Installation is supposed to be pretty easy and headspacing is fairly easy as well. I believe it comes with go no-go gauges, but even if it doesn't, I can probably make my own.

Approx. how strong is that action? Is it actual turk manuf. or is it an imported mauser?

Darrell

large ring? I'm not sure. I'm not much of a mauser afficianado (sp?).

It's of a Gewher 98 style. double stack flush 5 round box magazine. has arabic writing on the receiver as well as some turkish looking symbols (stars and crescents). It's also got a few different dates on different parts (1934, 1945... I dont remember- the rifle is actually back home with my dad).

My guess is that it was made under license from germany as part of the central power's early war diplomacy and then was re-arsenalled and thrown into storage a dozen times. The handguard seems to match the stock but I'm not certain. I got a picture though.

http://www.pbase.com/commissargribb/image/38767631/large

bayonet was in lousy condition, everything (of course) was swimming in cosmoline. I had some trouble at first dealing with some corosion on the firing pin but some rust/blue remover fixed that. The blueing was surprisingly intact on the barrel/ receiver and the bolt was unblued. bayonet and sheath were crap like I said- dented sheath, torn up wood grips, nicked blade...

the rifle came with a ram rod that had stripped threading. I dont think it's original. standard clip pouch, 2 slings (why, I dont know).

all in all a fun shooter- a bit front heavy but it's a battle rifle! Now just to wait until it's banned as an "evil high caliber sniper weapon". :banghead:

 

[Dave R]

If all sources of ammo dry up would any one be willing to produce low quantitys of it (say 20-50 rounds at a time)?

I don't think its likely that ammo sources will dry up, as the number of 7.5 Swiss rifles that are being used is going up, as these rifles are taken out of warehouses and sold to shooters.

If you can't find someone to load ammo for you, you can always get into handloading, yourself. A K-31 is as good an excuseas any.

Visit the reloading forum and do a search on getting started in reloading. The subject is discussed regularly. The short version is it takes between $120 and $250 in equipment to get started (depending on whether you want "Chevy" equipment or "Cadillac" equipment.) Then you can shoot your K-31 all you want for $3.50-$6.00 per 20.

 

[hcker2000]

Well thats good to know. I didn't manage to get up early enough to call buckeye outdoors today. So I will probably give them a call monday. If they have alot then I will probably just save up and keep checking on how many they have left as I am doing that. If they have a few (less than 3) I will probably throw one in layaway there to make sure i get one.