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New submachine gun could shake up the firearms world
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Tom Maffin, senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc. demonstrates the company's revolutionary Kriss Super V 45 caliber submachine gun at a range on the Blackwater USA campus in Moyock, N.C.

(Stephen M. Katz photos | The Virginian-Pilot)

By Jon W. Glass
The Virginian-Pilot

MOYOCK, N.C.

His Ford Crown Victoria disabled by hostile fire, driver Tom Maffin scrambled from the car, crouched behind the hood and sprayed a target with automatic gunfire to cover for a passenger.

Maffin's weapon: a KRISS Super V .45-caliber submachine gun.

If you're military or law enforcement and haven't heard of it, chances are you soon will.

Maffin is senior gunsmith for Transformational Defense Industries Inc., a weapons technology firm that conducts its research and development from a Virginia Beach office park near Lynnhaven Mall.

Watch video of the KRISS Super V submachine gun.

By early next year, the Washington-based TDI plans to open a production facility in Virginia Beach to begin manufacturing the submachine gun for police and military use and a .45-caliber semi automatic carbine for the commercial shooting market.

Industry experts say the weapons are unlike any other now on the market and could shake up the firearms world.

What makes the weapons special, company and industry officials say, is a new patented operating system that substantially reduces recoil and muzzle climb when fired.

The recoil, or kick, of a conventional weapon is directed backward into a shooter's shoulder, causing the gun to rise off target. TDI's "Super V" bolt-and-slide mechanism directs the energy downward in front of the trigger.

Company tests indicate the mechanism reduces recoil by 40 to 60 percent and muzzle rise by about 95 percent over conventional gun operating systems.

At a Thursday demonstration for media at a Blackwater USA firing range in Moyock, officials said their system improves accuracy and reduces user fatigue. The submachine gun can be fired with one hand and remain on target.

"This is the future of weapons right here," said Andrew Finn, TDI's senior vice president.

TDI has worked with the Army and special operations forces to develop the technology. It uses Blackwater's facilities to field test the weapons.

Officials set up the disabled vehicle scenario to demonstrate the maneuverability and firepower of the .45-caliber submachine gun, which TDI says is ideal for close-quarter situations the police and military encounter in urban settings.


The gun, which weighs about 5 pounds unloaded and collapses to a length of 16 inches, can be easily carried in helicopters, Humvees and other vehicles, said Maffin, a retired Marine who began working at TDI's Virginia Beach operation about a year ago.

"Seeing this product for the first time in my interview, I was sold," Maffin said. "It's got the knockdown power a lot of guys want."

Members of the media at the Thursday event, heavy in such trade publications as Guns & Ammo and Small Arms Review magazines, were allowed to shoot the submachine gun and the carbine.

"The reduction in recoil is absolutely amazing," said Wendy Henry, who works in Pennsylvania for Women In Scope, a TV series that promotes women's awareness of firearms. "It's very easy to maintain your control over it."

Frank Borelli, a law enforcement and military consultant in Maryland, said the weapon is "going to rock the firearms industry." He has fired the TDI submachine gun but did not attend the event.

"What they're doing is very different," Borelli said.

Some industry experts question whether the company will make significant inroads with military and police, which have moved away from submachine guns - in part because their pistol-caliber rounds can't pierce body armor. The gun's price tag - now expected to retail in the $1,200-to-$1,300 range - also could chill sales.

Company officials said interest is high, noting that they worked with the Army's Picatinny armament research and development arsenal in New Jersey to develop the technology.

These guns are the first product that TDI, a five-year-old subsidiary of Switzerland-based Gamma Research and Technologies Holding SA, has brought to market.

Chuck Kushell, TDI's chief executive officer and director, said the Virginia Beach operation, dubbed Viking Works, will grow once production starts in January or February.


Prototypes of the KRISS Super V .45-caliber submachine gun and carbine are displayed at TDI?s production facility in Virginia Beach.

Currently, eight engineers, machinists and gunsmiths work in a 4,000-square-foot facility. Kushell said he expects to more than double the space and add 15 to 20 employees as the company ramps up over the next few months.

To reach the civilian market, the company developed the .45-caliber carbine. Plans call for marketing it primarily to shooting enthusiasts who would use it for competitions and target practice, but it also could be used for hunting.

"This is not going to be a gun for everyone," Kushell said.

Company officials said the Super V mechanism can be adapted to any caliber weapon. Work currently is under way on a 12-gauge shotgun. And the company has won an Army contract valued at a little over $1 million to develop a lighter-weight, more user-friendly .50-caliber machine gun, Kushell said.

Jon W. Glass, (757) 446-2318, [email protected]


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It looks complicated. Seems like it could break more often than an older design. I might want to pick one up after it's been proven reliable....
 
Can I SmartCarry it?

How about SOB carry?

Either way, I'd probably make lots of friends, huh?

Looks like that guy did some forearm exercises, don't it?
 
Now if they could incorporate that concept into a handgun, they'd sell a boatload of them. We really need to play catch-up in that area.
 
While it looks cool it is not really a new concept the tilting bolt has been around for many years, M1 Garand, M1 carbine, M14, and Ruger mini 14 are all tilt bolt designs, of one sort or another, this one is just a variant.
 
I'd love to see some hard figures on just how much difference there is between a trained user with an MP5 and a trained user with a KRISS at normal distances.
 
crazy cool...sure maybe the idea of a tilt has been used/talked about before, but in such an extreme way?
ugly tho...$5 says there's a lotta bad guys that use that one in the movies for the next 10 years. :D
+1 on Wes Janson's comment too.
a little objectivity never killed anyone.
GP
 
Well I've heard the wind blow before........The Kriss system is interesting, but the jury's still out on reliability and durability...... >MW
 
Would love to own one, seen the articles a few months back, its a neat looking firearm.
When/if they are available i'd defenitly do the work to import it here, as long as the barrel is not any shorter than 4.1" on a brand new design, we can import it.

when are these going to be for sale to the public in semi auto? anyone know?
 
Read about them in one of the Combat rags. Thought the lack of a high cap GLOCK .45 mag seemed to make the weapon less effective than it could be.
 
There is nothing in the "bolt/slide" design that seems to me would eliminate muzzle climb.

The barrel axis being more or less level with the wrist is significant, though.
 
The whole picture here is pretty exciting to me.
The KRISS seems cool. Blackwater's moyock facility is becoming a place to debut or at least have a press release for a firearm, which puts them into a whole other light than the unattractive glow of the term "mercenary." And, frank borelli gets a blurb.

All in all, very cool in total. (Frank has a neat website google: borelli consulting)


I'd take a KRISS. Seems like a nice piece of hardware.
 
There is nothing in the "bolt/slide" design that seems to me would eliminate muzzle climb.

That bolt assy is basically couterweighted, and it's motion creates downward momentum.

IMO, the KRISS is bulky and ugly. I'd rather have an AR carbine in 10mm. But to each his own.
 
That bolt assy is basically couterweighted, and it's motion creates downward momentum.
Oh, I get what the marketing and the fine article want you to believe, but I don't think that it has anything to do with muzzle climb. If you think about it, you might wonder how you could drive the counterweight down, without driving the muzzle up. . .
Muzzle flip is caused by the torque generated by the stock of the gun being off-axis from the barrel.
IMO, the KRISS is bulky and ugly. I'd rather have an AR carbine in 10mm. But to each his own.
+1
 
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