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Confiscation of Registered Guns Begins in Illinois


Chicago Anti Gun Enforcement (CAGE) unit. This elite squad, operated jointly by the Illinois State Police, the Chicago Police Department, and the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, supposedly exists to identify illegal gunrunners. However, information gained by the ISRA makes it clear that the CAGE unit is targeting law-abiding citizens, not criminal gunrunners.
The Chicago Police Department and the Illinois State Police have teamed up to make good on Mayor Daley's pledge that, if it were up to him, nobody would have a gun. Daley and his elite "CAGE" unit are apparently taking advantage of gun privacy loopholes to pinpoint certain individuals for inclusion in the confiscation program.

The ISRA is following up on leads in one case that has disturbing implications. An elderly first-generation Chicago resident was recently paid a visit by an Illinois State Police trooper. After asking to come inside the man's home, the trooper asked if the man owned a gun - to which he replied yes. The trooper then directed the individual to surrender the firearm. The man complied with the officer's demand and the trooper left with the gun. And the story gets better...

The gun in question was purchased legally by the man in the 1970s shortly after he became a U.S. citizen. When Chicago's infamous gun registration scheme went into effect in the early 1980s, the man registered the firearm as per the requirement. However, over the years, the fellow apparently forgot to re-register the firearm, and forgot to renew his Illinois FOID Card.

So...what does this all mean?

In the last edition of The Illinois Shooter, we reported on the activities of a shady taskforce known as the Chicago Anti Gun Enforcement (CAGE) unit. This elite squad, operated jointly by the Illinois State Police, the Chicago Police Department, and the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, supposedly exists to identify illegal gunrunners. However, information gained by the ISRA makes it clear that the CAGE unit is targeting law-abiding citizens, not criminal gunrunners.

Thanks to a ruling by a liberal federal judge, the CAGE unit now has the name of every single person in the United States who, since 1992, lawfully purchased more than one handgun in the period of a week. The CAGE unit also has all the makes, models and serial numbers of those guns. In essence, the Chicago Police Department is now registering guns and gun owners nationwide.

The ISRA has also learned that the CAGE unit has compiled a list of families where more than one person in that family holds a FOID card. Acting on that information, the CAGE unit is now contacting gun shops where those families have shopped, and is illegally registering all guns purchased by those families.

Now, it appears that the CAGE unit is scrubbing Chicago's gun registration list against the list of FOID card holders. Indications are that folks who have let their registrations and FOIDs lapse will have their guns confiscated. We have to wonder how long it will be until state troopers show up at the doors to confiscate the guns of non-Chicago residents who have let their FOIDs expire.

More later as this story develops.

Source: Illinois State Rifle Association
 
With bill 218 becoming law you will see more of this! The whole idea is to get it to the point were only the people who represent the goverment can be armed. Say the State Police that are doing this are they some of the same ones who say they believe us law abiding Non-LEOs have a right to have a CCW??? LOL
 
Old news?

The CAGE unit was set up years ago and has been selectively confiscating primarily "assault" weapons in the Chicago city limits for some time now. They have also attempted "sting" operations with suburban gun shops that have all failed miserably or backfired in their faces.

I have learned not to trust much of what the ISRA says in its panic stricken (and they all are) notices to gun owners.

It seems their hair is always on fire and the only way to stop the latest "insanity" is to mail them another check. Next time they write you a note asking for donations ask them when the last time they had officer elections, with any new candidates, was. They desparately need new blood, it's an "old boys" network with a next to impossble to use semi-private shooting range that ISRA officers always get first crack at.

I don't really feel they do a very good job of representing gun owners in Illinois and if you go by the increasingly restrictive laws that are easily passed, it's hard to see how much worse off we could be here.
 
All and all I feel that most who support the 2nd amendment look at this as the start of a police state
 
The wake up call should of been in 1968-which the NRA endorsed. From there it has been all down hill.

Just for you people from New York remember the Sullivan Act of 1912(?). The NRA was in existance and you did not hear a peep from them.

What are you hearing from the NRA now?

Join the GOA and make it the biggest 2d Amendment rights organization in this country.
 
An elderly first-generation Chicago resident was recently paid a visit by an Illinois State Police trooper. After asking to come inside the man's home, the trooper asked if the man owned a gun - to which he replied yes. The trooper then directed the individual to surrender the firearm. The man complied with the officer's demand and the trooper left with the gun. And the story gets better...
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Did the trooper have a warrent? what would have happend if the resident told him no, that he sold it 20 years ago? Never let the police in your home. They can alway find something to arrest you for.

I will never live in Chicago

-Bill
 
This case actually happened last year. I wonder whether ISRA reposted it for their own reasons, or if it's just been that long since they updated the website?

Actually, I checked ISRA.org and it wasn't on the front page. Did they email that?
 
What would make for a 'verrrry interrresting' case would be for one of the CPD line patrol officers forget to renew his FOID, and then the CAGE unit shows up.......

or am I dreaming, because LEO's are exempt from, that FOID stuff ? ?

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Generally, yes, but in fairness I don't suppose it would be very fair to expect an officer to register a firearm he stole from the evidence room or diverted from a gun buyback (Not cop-bashing, as the Chicago Libertarian Party has proven such thefts of buyback guns occur.)

However, they did really gig and ruin a fire department official last year for having guns. Given Daley's problems with that department, though, I wondered (and still do) whether that was all there was to it. I'll probably never know more about that one.
 
I can't wait until the OVEN team appears after CAGE has been successful :rolleyes:
 
Just for you people from New York remember the Sullivan Act of 1912(?). The NRA was in existance and you did not hear a peep from them.
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Well, let's be realistic here. The NRA wasn't political back then. It was a shooting sports organization set up to organize matches and establish uniform rules. It didn't start becoming a political lobby until after WWII and didn't get really powerful until the 1980's.
 
However, they did really gig and ruin a fire department official last year for having guns. Given Daley's problems with that department, though, I wondered (and still do) whether that was all there was to it. I'll probably never know more about that one.
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If the official had guns legally I can't see how Daley could ruin him.

-Bill
 
a close parallel:

However, with the introduction to Japan of matchlocks, bows and spears during the 16th-century Warring States Period, swords became more symbolic of the samurai rather than their prime tools of combat. To preserve this symbolic aura, the warlord Toyotomi Hideyoshi (1536-98) ordered that no one but members of the samurai class could possess a sword. And to ensure his edict was observed, he launched "sword hunts" aimed primarily at reducing the danger from the many farmers' uprisings.

There have also been a number of "sword hunts" (the most famous being that of Hideyoshi), where weapons were collected for seemingly benign purpose (Hideyoshi's was religious, making a big statue of the Buddha from the melted-down weapons) but actually in order to render weaponless dissenting groups.

This process of CLASS SEPARATION was made final and irreversible by still another policy adopted locally by individual daimyo and eventually on a national basis by Hideyoshi, namely the effort to restrict the bearing of arms by any of the bushi class. “Sword-hunts†..., meant to disarm the rural and urban populace, occurred sporadically during the 1580s. Hideyoshi ordered a nationwide sword-hunt in 1588.

and this is why the japanese will never be free. they have been sheeple so long the now want and desire the velvet fist of a benign oppressor.

we totter at the edge.
 
I am 99% sure that LEO’s are required to maintain a valid FOID card. One of my best friends is a State Trooper and I (think) I remember him saying that some time ago.

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six 4 sure,
Illinois peace officers used to be exempt from having to have a FOID if the only firearm they possessed was what is used on duty. Sometime in the late 80s or early 90s that was changed. I remember we all had to provide our FOID numbers to the chief who had to forward them to either the State Training and Standards Board or the ISP, I don't remember which.

Jeff
 
Regardless of what the task force was designed to do, CAGE is not necessarily targeting law-abiding citizens. If a citizen fails to renew a FOID, then that citizen isn't abiding by the law. Give up on that portrayed innocence notion that the citizen "forgot" to renew. Whether the citizen actually forget or intentionally failed to renew for some reason can't be acsertained. The citizen might have claimed to have forgotten, but that does not mean he did.

No doubt such laws may be in effect and that the CAGE are checking FOIDs and registrations and acting against those who are not in compliance. Those laws suck, but the gun owers still have to comply with the laws or risk suffering the consequences.

whm1974, your query as to whether or not the trooper had a warrant seems to indicate that you thought he needed a warrant. He didn't. He asked to go inside and was allowed. He asked about a gun and it was provided to him. No warrant is necessary in such a situation.
 
Sounds like a police state to me. Almost like Germany before the war. but 218 only for LEOs and retired LEOs Yep more and more are freedoms are going out the window
 
we totter at the edge.
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Other than ranting on the internet and insulting a whole nation becasue their society differs from ours, what are you doing about it these confiscations?

Molon Labe indeed...based on your analysis, your a "sheeple" too

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