Chicago Firefighter Gets Four Years In Prison

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Chicago Firefighter Gets Four Years In Prison

Chicago, IL—The Gulag has yet another political prisoner tonight. For engaging in constitutionally protected activity a political hack in a black robe, appointed by the Daley/Burke crime families ordered honorably retired firefighter Ted Kozak off to Stateville Prison.

Kozak never hurt, threatened, stole from or otherwise victimized anyone. He held two prize collector’s items for a Chicago cop who was hospitalized and later died. The items were a Thompson sub-machine gun and a Sten gun. Both are banned in Illinois but may be owned in most of free America.

The guns were never used in crimes and were kept locked in a vault. Kozak had a stellar career and is a genuine hero.

The jailing of Kozak is a huge waste of money, prison space and serves no good purpose. Koxak would have merely continued his life as a good taxpaying and honest American.

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http://www.crimefilenews.com/2010/02/chicago-firefighter-gets-four-years-in.html
 
Well I am against these gun restrictions, but it certainly sounds like he possessed two full auto firearms against state law.

Whether they were legal NFA items at the federal level is not mentioned, though there still would have been some problems just giving them to someone without going through the NFA process. (And if he could not legally possess the items in his state I doubt he went through the NFA process.)


Calling for the changing of these laws would be one thing. But the article just complains about the punishing of this particular guy and compares the punishment to practices of Nazi Germany.
I think illegal possession of full auto NFA firearms in most states of the nation would get you into some trouble, not just in IL.
 
The real problem is not the possession of said firearms it's the blatant disreguard for the constitution. Has anything happened to the lawmakers that pass unconstutional laws?
Nope never......:mad:
 
First of all- the two weapons you mention- the Thompson and the Sten- were indeed fully automatic weapons. Mr Kozak did not have a tax stamp from BATFE and was not legally entitled to posess those weapons, the whole Chicago mess notwithstanding.

The law sucks, but it is the law, and as UNConstitutional as it is, the BATFE-Boys will pursue violators with a vengeance.

You forget that he also had about 100 other weapons, all unregistered, in his collection when they busted open his safes.

Again, Illinois' laws suck hard, but they are the local laws, and knowing those laws, why in the H-E-L-L would you want to live there?

Mr. Kozak was guilty of laws that shouldn't be illegal, yes. But he was also guilty of flaunting the laws of the most corrupt city in the US outside of DC.


The fact that those laws are infringement, plain and simple, don't matter to the powers that be. They don't care. And the people they employ will continue to violate our rights until they are stopped. Plain and simple. YOu can say, poor Ted, but honestly, it's poor ALL of us, and Ted didn't use good judgement.

Since you quoted that story in its entirety, shouldn't you also include a link to the original author for copyright and fair-use infringement?
 
evan, first off I did include the link(bottom)and it's not the entire story.

2nd the reason I live in Hellinois is because I have a good job and I have to take care of my father. It's not like we chose Hellinois over all the rest to live in. I've been here since 1968 :(

I also agree with you that Kozak broke the law, but as you know it's Chitcago and corruption is rampant. Maybe he ticked off the wrong person that knew he had these firearms and everything was kosher till that happened. That's my guess.

Anyway I really hate to see someone become a felon from unconstitutional laws. Now Kosak can't own a firearm in any state in the whole country.
 
Kozak, who was born in Venezuela, previously was arrested in 1992 and charged with failure to register weapons, but the case was dismissed, Franklin said.



and cops got a tip.

apparently hes a slow leaner
 
I'm a former peace officer and I know if I got caught with unregistered fullauto weapons I'm most likely going to jail so I wouldn't be crying about it. Obviously it's a risk he took willingly and he got caught...whether we like the laws as they are right now or not...you seriously can't take the stance that he's in the right and the court is in the wrong!!!!!!!
 
Unless you are wearing Liberal blinders, the Constitution plainly protects the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, which also includes the right to keep a loaded handgun in one's home.

Just as plainly, it does not protect the right to keep and bear hand grenades, flamethrowers, Sherman tanks, or machine guns.

Note, in the handgun carry case now working its way through the D.C. District Court, Palmer, it has been conceded by the attorney that won the Heller case, Alan Gura, that the State can ban either concealed carry or open carry, but not both.

I do think an argument can be made that it is unconstitution to put someone in prison for puting a bayonet lug on an otherwise legal "assault weapon" but I am not going to be the one to find out!

Let's be careful out there.

P.S. A Sherman would really look great on my front lawn.
 
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Could Mr. Kozak, under MT Law, once/if released, rebuild his collection and live there without hindrance under their recent rebuff to the blinding assaults on the 10th amendment?

Not that he should have to, he should be able to live anywhere in this previously free country, and possess any firearm he so chose until he chose to violate the rights of previously free citizens...
 
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bushmaster1313 said:
Just as plainly, it does not protect the right to keep and bear hand grenades, flamethrowers, Sherman tanks, or machine guns.
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Really... I'm sorry I must be mistaken on thinking that "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." wasn't exclusionary I certainly don't see any words that match your interpretation.

In US vs. Miller (1939) the court explained... "In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a 'shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length' at this time has some reasonable relationship to any preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could contribute to the common defense."

Hmm, interesting eh...? ordinary military equipment. And if needs be to use the 2nd amendment to overthrow a tyrannical government I suppose you'd expect us to fight it with peashooters and spit balls. </off topic rant>

Now according to law he did break it. If he got turned over because he stopped paying someone off or fell out with the cool kids in the halls, then I say throw the book at him, its this kind of elitist public servant cr@p that really p*sses me off, like Pelosi having a California concealed carry license. However other than the NFA charges, the rest might be overruled when he appeals if McDonald passes favorably.

onirot... No he couldn't do that in MT, or TN. The FFA both specifically remove restrictions on firearms manufactured in that state, so no collection for him, unless they're replicas manufactured in entirety in whichever of those states he took up residence in. Even then it might be pushing it, since federal law states it is a crime for a convicted felon to own a firearm. Since he's a "well known" felon now, it would be difficult for Montana to turn a blind eye, unless it's entirely overturned on appeal (including any NFA charges).
 
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I feel the court was unreasonable in their refusal to allow him to remain on bail during the appeal process. Given the offense, a slap on the wrist would have been ample punishment. Now he's a felon and will no longer be allowed to exercise his Second Amendment rights.
A miscarriage of justice, no matter how stupid he was.
 
he got a wrist slap before. didn't learn much
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Exactly! It's another case of the double standard many gun owners have. Many gun owners speak of victimless crimes - well no one was hurt so there should be no punishment.

How many gun owners would be outraged over, say, an armed robber who gets a slap on the wrist and let go and then his next robbery turns into a murder. We will scream from the rooftops, "Why did you let him go the first time!"

But then when it's a crime that we don't think is all that bad, we say:
a slap on the wrist would have been ample punishment.
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We can't have it both ways, folks. Do the crime - do the time.
 
get caught twice? same crime? i'm reminded of the joke about the bear hunter and the bear telling him "you're not here for the hunting are you?"
 
I just don't feel that the punishment fits the crime here. Yes, he broke the law. Nonetheless, not all victimless crimes are created equal.

BTW, while the strict definition of victimless crimes includes bank robbery, that's a real stretch...........
 
wishin said:
BTW, while the strict definition of victimless crimes includes bank robbery, that's a real stretch...........
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So far you are the only one in this thread that has mentioned bank robbery.
 
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