Chile: Gun Owners Hell

[justashooter in pa]

xinhuanet is a chinese news source that panders to oppression the world over. for them to publish the ranting of an NGO (that may have no influence at all in Uruguyan politic) that sees firearms only as tools of the state is not surprising, and may be of little practical note. you would have to inquire with the uruguyan gov't to see if this NGO has any influence, at all.

 

[tomrkba]

I hear to food is good down there though!

Oh, HELL NO! It's more bland than English food and there's no good fish-n-chips anywhere in the country. I practically lived off Frosted Flakes, M&M's and fruit. Even then, the fruit was bruised and battered in the bin at Jumbo. Steakhouses would cook the meat until it had the consistency of shoe leather. Chinese food was Chilean food with funny colors and extra noodles. I did manage to find a few good Italian restaurants and a really good Australian cafe and (separate) restaurant.

 

[justice06rr]

Uruguay it is! (now checking flight tickets...)

Thanks for all the info, Alfon99. Seems to make more sense there for gun laws, in a way. To me, there shouldn't be a difference between a Select fire gun, or Semi when it comes to ownership. An M4 DIAS is a small piece of metal that costs $15k to own, but maybe $100 to manufacture...

 

[oneounceload]

Uruguay is a very Libertarian country where gay marriage and pot were recently legalized. As a Libertarian myself, it is a place I am considering, although not in Montevideo - too many folks.

 

[alfon99]

BUT REMEMBER If you come here, get the second permit and buy a machine gun. If you are going to just buy a .22, stay in the us, because for buying a .22 it is going to be much easier there.

 

[alfon99]

About montevideo... I always hated it, and I always loved living in the country, here, in cerro largo. And this is my home, because my family always lived here, and currently I live in this house that my family built 120 years ago. At first I just came in summer, because the winter was unbearable. We had no heating so in the cold mornings frost formed all over the interior of the house. The weather on average is like georgia, mississippi, or maybe part of louisiana. We get some flurries every a year or two. We are currently planning on building a guest house in the next months so we could make it like a little turistic ranch, or something like that. So after we have this house feel free to come anytime you want. (We have guns)

 

[jj1962hemi]

I took my family to Ecuador a few years ago. It was a beautiful country, and a short flight from the Midwest (4+ hrs?). I thought about property there, because the people were so nice and it was charming. Maybe for a few months a year, or something like that? But I don't like the variability in the government. I've read that Panama and Costa Rica are nice, but I don't know about their gun laws. I have always wanted to visit Montivideo, and the more rural parts of Uruguay. Montivideo has been christened "the most European city in South America," so I thought a vacation there would be fun. It's a long flight and the airfare is cruel, or I would have bee there already. Alfon, your thoughts are appreciated. It's interesting to hear your point of view.

 

[Kayo]

Been to Chile and Argentina, but never Uruguay. If Uruguay was up against the Andes or located in Patagonia, I would be gone tomorrow. If you like beef, you will think you died and went to heaven. Alfon99, Ever heard of Francis Mallman? Great cook. Looked into firearms ownership in Chile and Argentina though and indeed it would be no go.

 

[alfon99]

Yes montevideo is a quite european city, but I just don't like living there maybe, because it is not an ugly city, it just is a bit "grey" and sad city. Maybe i'm the only one that feels this, but it's just my opinion. We have nice beaches, not in montevideo, these aren't very good, but in punta del este and they are good, but staying there is expensive. The rural area it depends which department (the equivalent of state). The nicer rural areas are the ones in a minor mountain range called cuchilla grande, the rest is just flat and hasn't got much good sceneries. So consider maldonado, lavalleja, treinta y tres, and part of cerro largo. I live in cerro largo and it is the department that I like the most, but I don't know if it's because I live here. If you want to stay in a wonderful city, go to colonia. It is beautiful. Much more than montevideo. It is a small city but is just wonderful. Remember, if you ever come to uruguay and want to use some guns, you might want to come to my ranch. I'm not sure if they will let aliens shoot in gun ranges with rented guns, because I never went to a gun range.

 

[alfon99]

Been to Chile and Argentina, but never Uruguay. If Uruguay was up against the Andes or located in Patagonia, I would be gone tomorrow. If you like beef, you will think you died and went to heaven. Alfon99, Ever heard of Francis Mallman? Great cook. Looked into firearms ownership in Chile and Argentina though and indeed it would be no go.

Of course I heard of francis mallman, it was a great cook. Just when you are going to eat beef in a restaurant in uruguay, ask for the meat to be "almost raw" because traditionally they cook it until its black like coal.

 

[atomchaser]

How is the hunting there? Is it all private land?

 

[alfon99]

How is the hunting there? Is it all private land?

Yes, it is all private land. For turists there are companies that offer safaris and that stuff, but you will be hesitating about shooting that deer, because if you shoot it they will charge you 4 extra grands. But that is just for turists. Always try to avoid all those turistic stuff because they will kill you with the price. There are people who would pay to get rid of the hogs, they are very damaging. If you ever come to cerro largo, PM me because I know everyone here. My neighbour was recently searching someone to hunt hogs for him.

 

[fallingbird]

Any bird hunting?

 

[alfon99]

Any bird hunting?

Yes, there is dove, duck and patridge.

 

[fallingbird]

What is the best time of the year for combination hunts (when all such seasons are open)?
In 2005, I did a combination hunt in Argentina for Duck in the morning, Perdiz in the midday, and Dove in the afternoon. I think it was in July. Cold in the morning, but warmed up during the day. Lots of fun! I'm ready to go again!

 

[alfon99]

What is the best time of the year for combination hunts (when all such seasons are open)?
In 2005, I did a combination hunt in Argentina for Duck in the morning, Perdiz in the midday, and Dove in the afternoon. I think it was in July. Cold in the morning, but warmed up during the day. Lots of fun! I'm ready to go again!

Yes, it think your best bet would be in july, because the duck season starts in 1st July and ends in 15 september and the perdiz starts the 1st of may and ends in 31st july, and you can hunt dove all the year, so anywhere between 1st of july and 31st of july. Make sure to bring some warm clothes, because it may be not so cold but if you come during an artic outbreak like they call it there in the US it will be cold. Think like south georgia in january.

 

[oneounceload]

There are NO seasons on dove or pigeon - year round. The only limitation is your wallet as ammo runs about $14 a box. Perdiz, the partridge has a season, but you can combine it with fishing for Dorado as well as the pigeon and dove.

 

[justice06rr]

Another quesition to Alfon: Can we send our firearms there, or is it better to rent guns in Uruguay?

I don't really even know if its possible to send/bring guns there from the US for sporting uses. If they have guns for rent it will probably be better, no?

 

[alfon99]

Another quesition to Alfon: Can we send our firearms there, or is it better to rent guns in Uruguay?

I don't really even know if its possible to send/bring guns there from the US for sporting uses. If they have guns for rent it will probably be better, no?

Turists can only bring .22's but it is not recommended. You can take your guns from the US to Uruguay (other than a .22) If you are a uruguay resident. Importing guns is only fine if it something you can't get here in uruguay, because you need to pay around 60% the price of the gun in taxes. So I would only do it if it's a very special gun to me or if I can't get it in Uruguay. To rent a gun in uruguay you need a hunting permit which is pretty easy to get for turists.

 

[bubba in ca]

Interesting article, but keep in mind that it is combining 2 things--importing a personal arm and owning a gun.

I laugh when people talk about moving to AZ or TX.. These are front line states and within 10 years they will go Lib and go lib with a vengance.

It`s the demographics, Pookie! 10 libs will move there for cheap taxes or no snow for everygun nut and with or without ``immigration reform`` they will be Mexicanized before your eyes.

My ccw in Nicaragua cost a little chump change and running around town for a couple weeks. Net net, it was better than California but worse than AZ. I haven`t imported a gun because I don`t like the paperwork, but the author is correct in saying to import the most pricey gun you can as long as it has locally available ammo.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I laugh when people talk about moving to AZ or TX.. These are front line states and within 10 years they will go Lib and go lib with a vengance.

AZ maybe, Texas I highly doubt. TX is barely even subject to federal government; it's one of the few states that truly could secede from a monetary standpoint.