CHL/CCW holder freed after 2 1/2 years!

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DWarren -

Hope all your friends remain just as they are now, and never have an emotional moment or consume alcohol or other drugs that might effect a change in behavior.

Matt -

Welcome to THR, and welcome back to the land of the free. Please follow up on your stated intent to work with NRA (and other pro-gun rights groups) in speaking out for self defense.

stay safe.

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Welcome to the board Matt! I am sure your ordeal was hard all the way around.

In the end, I am glad justice prevailed.

Do you still have your permit btw? Or are you still eligible for it if you don't?
 
Matt, welcome and thanks for joining us.

Any chance at getting that prosecutor "Nifong-ed"?

Sounds like she needs to be unemployed...
 
Sounds like they need to change the law to allow use of deadly force for fear of "serious bodily injury" as well as death; if that isn't already the case. A boxing match (for example) may not always kill you, but it certainly can mess you up, and permenantly at that.

Texas allows lethal force for fear of death or serious bodily injury by the way. It helps clear up gray areas like this.

Glad it all worked out in the end. I hope you have better luck with roommates in the future.
 
Re the prosecutor: One thing you have to remember is that lawyers will argue their side until the cows come home. It don't matter who is right or wrong. That is what lawyers are trained to do. That is really what you want them to do if you think about it.
 
Hi Matt thanks for coming here.
If you can, please enlighten us by answering some of the previous questions.
 
Anyone care to speculate how this would have gone if it was woman being beaten instead of a man?
 
I will try to answer the majority of your questions when I have more free time.

For now heres copies of the oregonian newspaper articles that might help answer some of your questions

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Matt,

Congratulations. Hopefully this case along with the recent Sandoval ruling, which ruled that there is no duty to retreat anymore in Oregon, will squash situations like this flat.
 
Sounds like they need to change the law to allow use of deadly force for fear of "serious bodily injury" as well as death; if that isn't already the case. A boxing match (for example) may not always kill you, but it certainly can mess you up, and permenantly at that.
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After the Sandoval ruling, this is not neccesary.
 
Welcome to THR, Matt. I think you'll find a lot of information here, and be able to pass on some of your knowledge as well. If you have a question, ask. It will be answered. If you have a comment, make it. Plenty of people will put in their 2 cents, some a nickle's worth!

It's a good thing that you now have your freedom and are able to get on with your life. It's also good to have you on board!
 
I really hate how reporters convey stories sometimes. This man was proven innocent in a court of law and the headline reads, "accused murderer." Also, I'm happy it went before a judge simply because of the buzz words used by the DA's office. I love how if you are young, and carry an interest in firearms that you are a "gangsta," this especially after he was a legal CCW holder. :fire:
 
amen, blame the stupid DA's office for waiting 2 1/2 years to bring this to a conclusion. that is probably a violation of the right to a fair and speedy trial?

reminds me of that DA @ Duke......Naifong.....trying to make a name for himself. make some poor guy wear an ankle bracelet for 2 1/2 years is ridiculous.

unless, this guy's criminal defense attorney didn't have his act together for 2 1/2 years....i also wonder why his defense attorney wasn't screaming bloody murder?
 
One of the articles quotes the DA as saying that she "was going to prove with overwhelming evidence that the defendant did not fear for his life the night he put five bullets in the chest of his friend"

So the standard under Oregon state law is that a if reasonable person would fear for his life then deadly force is justified. There is no duty to retreat if that is the law.

Its tough to prove with no witnesses to the shooting that someone was not in fear for their life. It would be especially difficult given the testimony of the security guards and other witnesses to Mr. Rew's violent outburst. Im surprised the charges were not dropped. I wonder if the gansta rap paraphrenallia caused the DA to pursue the case.
 
More proof prosecutors, politicians and diapers need to be changed often for the same reasons.

Anyone who thinks criminal defense attorneys are dirtbags have never seen the real side of prosecutors. The only difference between them and the thugs are that the thugs don't have the deep pockets thanks to your tax dollars.
 
I live a few miles from Portland and travel there on business. Portland has a lot of ex-New Yorkers and Ex-Californians in city government. They seem to have that same (NY/CA) attitude on guns that doesn't fit in with the rest of the Northwest.
 
Its about time that he is out.

I am very glad that the charges against Matt have been dropped. Although I was not at the scene of the crime, I know Matt pretty well and I know that he did do this in self defense. Yes, he probably needed to use a different method of handling the problem but we werent there to judge him for his choice. I can assure you that Matt did not do this out of anger or loss of control. He is a very gentle and kind person. I have seen him in situations that most people would have gotten very angry and flown off the handle. Matt would just let these things just roll off his back without a second thought. I just wish that anyone who thinks that Matt is a murderer with psychological problems could find themselves in this situation themselves and I am sure that they would have done the same thing. All that I can say to you is that Matt is one of the most sane people that I know in my heart that he did what he needed to do under the circumstances.
 
Craig Plunkett, a representative for Parents of Murdered Children, sat by Rew's mom, Michelle Cox, throughout the trial. Plunkett said Cox commuted from Tacoma almost every day
"She is devastated," Plunkett said. "And she doesn't believe justice was served."
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I'm always annoyed by these types of quotes.

At first, I have some sympathy for this woman as she lost her son, so some stupid comments can be ignored because her pain will cause her to be illogical. But then the more I think about it the sympathy goes away because quite frankly SHE helped to create this monster in the first place.

One generally doesn't become a raving psychotic without some input from the parents.
Why would he consider such an obnoxious man a friend?
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My best friend in jr. high and high school is someone I don't hardly speak to anymore. As he got older he got more volatile and dangerous. There was a time that he and I almost got an apartment together ... in retrospect I could see something similar happen with him. And yeah ... his parents created that monster too.

Even though I no longer have have any desire to have anything to do with my friend, I'd still hate to have to shoot him.
 
This story is appalling.
2 ½ years with an ankle bracelet and $250,000 bail for justified self defense!
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Well see, DoubleTapDrew, the problem was that there was a question as to whether the self defense act of shooting the best friend was about justified. That was the question at hand. So, the $250K bail and ankle bracelet for 2.5 years was appropriate, although I am always surprised at how long it takes for murder cases to get to trial. What you see is due process at work and functioning in a situation where there was a homicide and there was concern over whether the shooting was justified or not. The correct ruling was made and so now Matt is a free man.

There is a reason folks say they were rather be judged (by 12, but in this case, by 1) than carried by 6. You can get out of jail, but you can't get out of the morgue. Yes, it sucks that due process isn't faster.

Something of interest is that this is yet another case where lethal force with a firearm has been ruled justified in defense against an aggressive armed person. Texas' first CHL in 1996 was where Hale shot Tavai once in the chest after Tavai battered Hale's face with his fist, stopped, and came back to give him a few more taps and it was on this second attempt that Hale shot him. Hale suffered serious injury in the attack, broken facial bones, and permanently damaged the vision in one eye.
 
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