If you take a patch saturated with some Hoppes 9 down the bore right from the start and let it sit for 20 minutes or more so the Hoppes 9 can do its magic...it makes the cleaning process a lot smoother and quicker.
yeah I just go until good enough but my uncle is a stickler for perfection and Hoppes #9 is the key. Soak a patch in it and run it down the barrel with a coated cleaning rod so you don’t scratch anything up. Repeat a few times followed by some dry patches and voila clean barrel.
ballistol is really more for a mild cleaning than a deep get it perfect cleaning. But it’s good to have around.