CMP question... rack vs. service grade

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I have been thinking about getting a CMP garand. But cant decide if I would be better off getting a Service grade, or saving $100 and getting the rack grade, a new stock, and new park.
Anyone have pix of the difference between a rack and service grade.

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Jason
 
Always get service. It is definitely worth the money!

Reparking and a new stock will be at least 2x the $100.00 difference.
 
Do you want to shoot it, or look at it? The service grade is ready to go back into service, so the barrel and throat are within spec. The $100 difference won't even cover the gunsmithing required to install and headspace a new barrel, much less the cost of a new barrel- so you might as well spend the little bit extra.
 
Or you could go field grade, functional but not quiet service grade. that being said I have a couple of rack grade m1 carbines that were in better shape than some of service grades I had bought.
 
Field grade or service grade from the CMP?-that is really the question. I wouldn't waste any time or money getting a rack grade, because you're likely to get a real beater. That said, the answer depends on the reason you want a Garand and how you'll go about getting yours from the CMP. If you want a WW2 rifle, you're more likely to get that with a field grade nowadays. Although there are service grade WW2 rifles to be had from the CMP, I understand that most of their service grade rifles these days were manufactured after WW2 and, for the most part, after the Korean War, too. On the other hand, if you want a shooter, the service grade is your best bet. It will generally give you a better bore, a better stock, and a better metal finish. Especially if you mail order (or FedEx, as is the case with CMP), the extra $100 is good insurance that you'll get a decent rifle. On the other hand, if you can trek to one of the CMP's stores (in Ohio & Alabama), you might be able to pick out a plum field grade that will give you all you want at a lesser price.

The stocks and finish are not much different on the Service and Rack grades. The main difference is throat and muzzle wear.

Read the descriptions of the different grades on the CMP's website. Although a service grade will guarantee you a barrel with less throat and muzzle wear, I know there are field grades (but perhaps not rack grades) with barrels that measure up to service grade specs. On these rifles, the main difference will be the condition of the wood and metal. Specific to the rack grades, I have been to the South Store and can tell you that not one that I've seen has looked as nice as a service grade. Again, though, the best way to guarantee (as much as you can with milsurp rifles anyway) that you get a good rifle is to either order a service grade or go to the CMP store and pick out your own.

Get a service grade and ask for a new stock. They'll put one one no charge.

I don't think this is exactly the case. A lot of the service grades being sold now have new stocks because the CMP has experienced a shortage of decent wood for their higher grades. You can certainly request one of these rifles with a replacement stock, and the CMP will usually honor such requests, but know that it's not a sure thing.
 
I have both grades, one with new furniture the rest with older wood. One I beleive is a Greek rebuild because the last 4 digits of the SN are stamped on the stock, unfortunately the receiver is a different SN. I'm saving for a collector HRA for the next one, it all depends want you want. CMP is a class act either way
 
Get a Service Grade.

The only reason to get a Rack or Field grade is if you definately intend to rebarrel or rebuild the rifle and just want a complete rifle to start the project with.

Yes, every now and then you'll see a Rack Grade that is as nice as a typical Service Grade, but it's not the way to bet. The majority of Service Grade rifles have better muzzles and TE then the majority or Rack Grade rifles and generally have a better finish as well.
 
Service Grade SA Garand

I asked the same question...sort of.... back before I bought my Service Grade SA Garand. I wasn't so much interested in the looks of the rifle as I was with the accuracy differences between the grades.

I went for the Service Grade and was mucho surprised with what I got.
A new Boyd's birch stock, shiny bore, and it is accurate.

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I wanted a shooter and got one. Guys at the range are very surprised that I got it for $595. I've had to tell several how to go about getting their own from CMP.

I'm working on a M1 Carbine right now, but after that I am leaning towards a Service Grade HRA and I am going to "request" one with all original wood.
 
No. All CMP Garands are in the original .30 - '06 chambering.

The military never really used .308 Garands, except for the Navy that tried to convert some with chamber inserts. That didn't work well and most were changed back.

You wouldn't want one in .308 anyway. Nowdays '06 is cheaper through the CMP then .308 from any source.
 
.308 Garands

If you want a .308 Garand, there are no cheap options....that I have found.

You can get an '06 rebuilt, which is expensive and a "crime" to some, as you are destroying a historic firearm.

Look for a Used Springfield .308 Garand, and they are high.

Buy a Fulton Armory New Garand.

http://www.fulton-armory.com/MRifles.htm

You can get a full size Garand or a Tanker model, in .270, .308, or .30-06. They ain't cheap though!

Today, the full size Garand in .308 lists for $1804 on the website.
 
I'm not particular on either... I was just curious... I have some 30-06 brass and their website pretty much concludes that "luck of the draw" is what they send... I didn't want to order one and not know what I was getting... sort of speak... Thanks for the info...
 
No. All CMP Garands are in the original .30 - '06 chambering.

The military never really used .308 Garands, except for the Navy that tried to convert some with chamber inserts. That didn't work well and most were changed back.

You wouldn't want one in .308 anyway. Nowdays '06 is cheaper through the CMP then .308 from any source.

Not always so. The CMP did have and should have again Navy Mk 1's and 2's. Of course these rifles are put on the auction pages.

The Navy Mk 2's had 308 barrels made by Springfield with no insert. I know guys who used the Mk 2 to shoot matches. These rifles, Mk 1 and 2's were Navy award rifles to top Navy shooters. The award rifle everyone was after was a Remington 720.

The last CMP rifle I purchased was a HRA correct grade. Well worth it.
 
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