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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Dr. Fresh, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Dr. Fresh

    Dr. Fresh Member

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    I keep my guns in a safe that's bolted to the wall. Only problem is, it's bolted to the wall in the attic, which is unheated. Winter is nearly upon us, and while the temperature is usually in the 40s through most of the winter in the area, it does dip into the 30s and 20s for periods of time.

    Any tips on storing my guns in temperatures like this?
     
  2. matrem

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    From what I know about physics,as long as the air inside your container is warmer than the outside, (even slightly)condensation won't occur.
    One of those plug-in rods sounds in order for you.
    I do NOT know this to be 100% fact under sub-freezing conditions though.
     
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    How the hell did you get a gun safe into your attic? I don't even want to try getting one into my basement.
     
  4. WardenWolf

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    You can still get condensation once the temperature drops below the current dewpoint. I would certainly keep it heated to be safe.
     
  5. Dr. Fresh

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    Well, it's not the type of attic that sits on the roof, it's off to the side. It has a regular door on it.

    How would I heat it?
     
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    Keep fresh anti-humidity stuff in it, maybe. Water can't condense at any temperature if there's none in the air to begin with.
     
  8. Dr. Fresh

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    Shed? Whaaa?


    Excuse the ignorance, RyanM, but what do you mean by anti-humidity stuff?
     
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    if you put a little bit of rig mixed with some 3 in one oil on them and check em every once a month or even every couple of months i cant see much happening to them just clean the goop off when you want to take one out.
     
  10. Dr. Fresh

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    Well here's the thing. The safe is at my parent's house. I go to school 5 hours away. Sorry, should have mentioned that, lol. Neither parent wants anything to do with gun maintenance.
     
  11. RyanM

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    You may want to look at putting a Golden Rod De-humidifier in it. Only 7 watts and works well. I also use a Silica Gel.
     
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    How about insulating the room and then put a golden rod in
     
  14. BADUNAME37

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    Rusted guns

    I'm afraid, without heat, you are going to eventually have rusted guns (unless you pack the safe with grease, even then you still might).
     
  15. Lookinforlunkers

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    I would suggest moving your parents into the attic and the guns inside, but thats just my way of thinking:evil:
     
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    thats what i was thinking
     
  17. BADUNAME37

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    Good one!
     
  18. The Bushmaster

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    Yeh scrat. I have a Golden Rod in my safe along with a closet dehumidifier as an experiment. I'm collecting just as much water as without the Golden Rod. Bit suspicious here. Sent Golden Rod an e-mail and was told to call them. So I did. No one could answer my question and said they would call back. Haven't heard from them in 3 months...Guess they didn't like my question...
     
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    Wrap the safe with some insulation - similar to what you might put on a hot-water heater that's in a cold basement.

    If you're really concerned about it - i'm sure you could find some sort of suitable low-wattage heating element you could put in the bottom just to keep it from getting too chilly.
     
  20. Dr. Fresh

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    Thanks for the advice guys. Will be relocating parents as soon as I get home. Hahaha
     
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    Dr. Fresh, If the windows in the house do not collect condensate, you proably won't collect any in the safe. Does the wall common to the attic develop mold, if so, that is a sign that the wall is cold enough to condense moisture. The wall will condense moisture before the inside of the safe will, even if they use a humidifier. But what if the temp and humidity rises quickly. The mass of the safe will delay its warming up compaired to the attic wall. When the safe is the coldest mass in the room, and it is below the due point of the air, it will condense water vapor on the surfaces. I suspect this would be rare. Tropical front after bitter cold.

    I suggest you make a point to fire all firearms (at least clean them) every 45 days.

    dc
     
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    Can't remember if the windows collect moisture. It's been a couple of winters since I was there. I wouldn't expect a sudden rise in temperatures. I live near the coast in Washington state. It's pretty temperate.
     
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    If you're really concerned about humidity, and you get to check the guns every few days, then what I would suggest is that you run a work light into the safe, put in a small bulb like a 15watt bug light, and quit worrying. Run the cord through one of the mounting holes, of course.
     
  24. Dr. Fresh

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    Well like I said, the guns will be about 300 miles from me.
     
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    Homemade silica packs...

    Awesome tip from this site...

    Go to Walmart and buy kitty litter that's pure silica. It'll say on the bag. Go to the women's panty hose section and buy those cheap lower leg nylons. Fill the nylons with the kitty litter as desired. Tie the nylons up and throw them in your safe. You'll have industrial sized portions of silica/dessicant for less than $10.

    See also Post #10 here...

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=396909&highlight=kitty+litter
     
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