College athletes, guns, Louisiana law and questions ...

[Old Dog]

So this 19-year-old college football player takes a teammate with him to go sell some electronics to some guy in a bad part of town ... story ends with the football player shooting the buyer, who apparently attempted to rob them.
https://www.theadvertiser.com/story...-man-who-attempting-armed-robbery/2401455002/
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...etes-questioned-shooting-incident-baton-rouge
Not making snap judgements here ... but a couple questions: can you legally carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle in Louisiana without a concealed firearm license? Understanding that you cannot be issued CCW permit down there if you're under 21.

Other issues arise ... is it a positive thing that a 19-year-old college football player in a very high-profile program is going forth armed (hopefully, lawfully). Is the kid getting a pass in his college town because he's a football player?

Down there would 19-year-old high-school drop-out non-athlete Joe Sixpack who works at 7-11 get off as easily?

 

[OARNGESI]

I would rather have a charge for carrying a concealed weapon than be dead

 

[mdThanatos]

According to the Louisiana State Police's FAQ for permits it says: "Under most circumstances, carrying a handgun in a motor vehicle is legal in Louisiana. We suggest that you refer to Louisiana Revised Statutes (L.R.S.) Title 14 Sections 95; 95.1; 95.2; 95.6; 95.7; 95.8" A quick skim over those laws doesn't seem to prohibit them from carrying in a vehicle, unless they happened to be in a gun-free zone that is established in those statutes.

 

[CapnMac]

We suggest that you refer to Louisiana Revised Statutes (L.R.S.)

Which is particularly appropriate for Louisiana, as much of their legal coe remains "napoleonic" in nature (broadly, statutes define legality not illegality).
While enforcement is largely at the discretion of the Sheriff of each Parish, the Code defines the charges.

 

[GEM]

It might be an issue if the gun was kept on campus depending on school rules.

There may be more to the story as the scenario sounds sketchy.

 

[RETG]

Other issues arise ... is it a positive thing that a 19-year-old college football player in a very high-profile program is going forth armed (hopefully, lawfully).

Is it negative that a 19 year old has a gun, if legal?

 

[Old Dog]

No, of course not, and I didn't mean to imply such -- however, the situation as reported does call into question the player's judgement as well as bringing up some other questions (which, if the thread had not been moved to this sub-forum might have garnered more responses). Certainly, I have no problem with persons who've demonstrated maturity and good judgement owning/carrying firearms ... but since I myself was once a 19-year-old college football player (albeit not playing at a program anywhere near the caliber of LSU) so some forty years later I have a little perspective ...

 

[cheygriz]

IIRC, in La. your vehicle is the same as your home. Basically no restrictions on carry.

And yes, a 19 year old should be armed when travelling.

 

[Blkhrt13]

Yeah your car is an extension of your home. They must stay off campus to have the gun. You can’t conceal the gun on your person in the car. It must be in the car. Such is what I was told the last time I dealt with the issue. I promise you the college will do all they can to keep the players out of trouble. I doubt they were even detained much.

 

[cheygriz]

Just my best guess, but I would imagine that most universities are like U. of WY in one respect.

The president and provost are figureheads. The athletic director runs the university.

The administration believes that the primary purpose of female students is to attend to the sexual needs of the athletes.

 

[Blkhrt13]

The most popular religions in this state are Catholicism wether it’s Roman or Anglican and football. That last bit about the coaches running schools has merit nation wide and I hope the bit about female students is less true than it seems I have a daughter headed to college next year. I hope either school she is considering realizes the asset they are getting and makes her into the dr she has the potential to be.

 

[cheygriz]

Just make sure she knows that if she is assaulted to report it to the REAL police and not the campus keystone kops.

 

[Blkhrt13]

Let’s pray we don’t have that issue. But reporting it to daddy is prolly a good idea too. Tulane was an option because I have met the director of their security and spoken at length. Plus they have a Tulane chapter of PD.

 

[cheygriz]

Good school. Especially for medicine.

 

[Blkhrt13]

Yeah I just need to know more about their guns on campus issues. Cause she will need to have an lcp2 or my old colt.

 

[entropy]

The lack of judgement comes in at going 'to the bad part of town' to sell electronics to an unknown person. I have advised my younger son on numerous occasions not to use Craigslist, and to have a plan and backup if he must.

 

[Blkhrt13]

The lack of judgement comes in at going 'to the bad part of town' to sell electronics to an unknown person. I have advised my younger son on numerous occasions not to use Craigslist, and to have a plan and backup if he must.

I’d not be surprised to find that it’s not what it looked like. It may have been a drug deal gone wrong and they had the foresight to bring along whatever it was they were “selling”

 

[GEM]

Having worked in higher education for many years, folks make valid points about the problems of athletics, and the treatment of women. It is probably correct that there is more to this OP incident than an OMG, the RKBA is at risk.

My father was involved in professional and college sports at a high level. He told me not to go near it and STUDY. Worked out ok. He also said: Never trust a coach.

Also, when students wander into bad places, it is most likely drug related. I had a set of students go to New Orleans and one told me that they wanted to buy some evil weed. A nice gentleman told them to drive him to location X (what a plan) to get some weed. When they arrive, a set of gentlemen told them to give up their wallets. Most complied. One student said: You don't have to do this. I understand your culture and where you are coming from.

He got the 'educational beatdown'. The others watched and complied. The student telling me the story realized his idiocy.

In any case, after this yarn - we aren't really discussing a worthwhile topic. It's not really gun related as compared to kids being stupid. If you want to see the current state of athletics and the problematic interaction with females - see https://www.chronicle.com/. It is the business journal of higher education and the open articles will clue you in.

So, Happy New Year and Closure.