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Colt CCG or Dan Wesson Heritage?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by ACP, Feb 5, 2015.

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  1. ACP

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    Okay, I'm back in the 1911 game... one more time.

    I'm willing to spend $1000 to $1200 for a 1911. My PREFERENCES are:
    1) full-sized pistol (government)
    2) NO forward slide serrations
    3) dovetailed front and rear sights
    4) single side extended thumb safety
    5) solid trigger
    6) GI-style recoil plug and spring

    That's why I'm between these two guns. The Colt goes for about $1000 and the DW $1200.

    I've read a lot of reviews. About the DW, I read great fit and finish but potential problems with the slide stop and galling (it's stainless). People generally like the Colt but some swap out some parts.

    I like the sight rib and the front nightsight on the DW. I like the stainless for its slight edge in corrosion resistance. There's one at my LGS with an awesome trigger.

    I like the Colt for its name (I have a WWI repro, a Single Action Army and a Navy blackpowder) and for its price, it's beautiful blued steel and its slim grips.

    Any experience here with either gun? 100% reliability is my foremost requisite, of course. And I'm not looking for "target gun" accuracy.

    BTW, first person to mention the Les Baer UTC (which also fits my criteria) wins the "unspoken third choice but twice as expensive" prize.
     
  2. Teachu2

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    Get the Colt now. While you can.
     
  3. Rinspeed

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    Save another month and get a Baer UTC and never look back. ;)
     
  4. smalls

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    For some reason, Colt's don't do anything for me. I know, I know, they're the "original". I want to like them, butfor $1,000, there's just so many better options.
     
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  6. drband

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    Don't have a Colt (yet). My DW Heritage has been perfect so far. Fit is very tight and the break in has left it very smooth (slide/rails). As noted, it has a great trigger.
    Your call...
     
  7. bannockburn

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    Personally I would go with a Colt but that's my own preference. Go with whatever one feels best to you.
     
  8. agtman

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    Buddy of mine's a Colt fanboy, and one of the hardcore 1911 dudes at our local range. Likes to raze the Kimber guys about all the MIM-crap Kimber uses.

    He also likes to end any 1911-related discussion with:

    "If it don't wear the Pony, it's a big ol' phony ... or a clone(y)." :eek:

    That said, I'd still get the Colt.

    Within the last 3 months, I picked up a 3" New Agent and the full-size Marine M45A1 (production line/blue box). These two 1911s couldn't be more opposite in size, feel, or set-up, but they've both run without a hitch - about 500-rds thru both now.

    Colt's QC on its 1911s is back in a huge way these days. You'll find similar comments around the 'net about the other models in Colt's current line-up. And that's a far cry from the sorry rep Colt had garnered for itself back in the '80s. Ask me how I know ... I had an early Combat Elite (5", two-tone) that was crap. One problem after another. Sold it. Don't miss it.

    Right now, I've got my eye on the 5", blue Series 70 model (O1970A1CS). There's one resting on the shelf of my LGS. Just deciding whether I need *another* 1911 - but if I do, it'll be another Colt. :cool:
     
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  9. dakota1911

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    I would probably go with the Colt. I think galling is a thing of the past in 1911s. Back in the early, like Randall days they used the same alloy for the frame and slide. These days different alloys are used which prevents galling.
     
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    I like this suggestion. Baer is about the best bang for buck semi-custom 1911 out there.
     
  11. 1KPerDay

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    I went to my LGS with cash in hand intending to buy a Colt, and walked out with the Heritage. There was no comparison. If the price is similar, the DW is much better built (at least based on the examples I tried).

    I like colts and have a couple, and I'll buy a series 70 reissue when i can find one that doesn't feel and look like it was built at 4:45 on Friday afternoon.

    here's my boring vid on the DW if you're interested.

    http://youtu.be/1cl9pZulaIM

    and in action
    http://youtu.be/ylAbq2ieCfs?t=49s
     
  12. ACP

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    first of all, nice shooting!

    secondly, whatever became of your slide stop problem? did you send it back to DW? and did you have to send the gun back for anything else?

    thanks for your input...

    ACP
     
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    Ah, yeah, I forgot. Yep, they were very courteous and helpful, and they paid for it to go back and fixed it in a few days, and sent it back. I can't remember any troubles since. You may remember better than I, though! :D

    Oh, the roll pin securing the front sight came slightly loose after a couple thousand rounds. I just punched it back fully in place and it secured it nice and tight again.
     
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    I went for a different 1911, held a Heritage and walked out with a Heritage. I have not regretted the decision. Runs perfect, looks good and makes me look like a much better shooter than I am.
     
  15. Rubber_Duck

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    The CCG would be my choice.
     
  16. moxie

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    Colt. Don't worry about blued vs stainless. A little common sense and blued will resist corrosion just as well as stainless. I've had lots of blued guns and never had any corrosion, and I've lived in some very hot and humid places!
     
  17. ifit

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    DW Heritage....also has a very nice trigger, and their accurate:)
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  18. AustinTX

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    The DW is without question a better-made gun, but Colts are good guns these days, and you might think about getting one before they (possibly) aren't being made anymore and picking up a DW at a later date.
     
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    I'm not sure what a Colt CCG is either. It's often helpful when folks spell out the name rather than assuming we all know what is intended.

    But either way you will be getting a good gun.

    tipoc
     
  21. bannockburn

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    Not sure about the CCG designation either. Could be the letters were reversed and it should be CGC as in Colt Gold Cup. But it retails for a little bit more than $1200 and does not have a solid trigger. There is the Colt Special Combat Government (CSCG), but again it retails for a lot more than what the OP originally listed ($2000+), does not have a solid trigger and does have an ambi safety.
     
  22. limbkiller

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    I'm a Colt fan boy but the DW is a better gun. I'd get the DW.
     
  23. p95

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    I vote COLT, don't know why exactly, have owned a couple in the past---pretty nice,solid guns, wish I still had them. I suppose the DW is nice too.
     
  24. ACP

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    Here's the CCG: Concealed Carry Government. Think "Thunder Ranch" only made by Colt, with no frontstrap checkering.

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/.../411550390/COLT+TALO+CONCEALED+CARRY+GOVRMENT



    COLT TALO SPECIAL EDITION CONCEALED CARRY MODEL

    .45 ACP

    BLUE FINISH, NOVAK STYLE REAR SITE WITH A GREEN FIBER OPTIC FRONT SITE, ELONGATED HAMMER, SOLID TRIGGER, SINGLE SIDED EXTENDED THUMB SAFETY, BEAVER TAIL GRIP SAFETY, VERY NICE SLIM LINE GRIPS
     
  25. bannockburn

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    So that's the Colt Concealed Government. Very nice. Don't see how you could go wrong with either that or the Dan Wesson Heritage. For concealed carry in a full size 1911 I went with the Colt Lightweight Government. Out of all the many 1911s I checked out, this one had the best feel and balance to it.

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