Colt is back in the Handguns business

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I don't think I'd call them "back in the business" since there's nothing new there and they were never really gone. Also not sure if I'd call it much of a business offering only three guns. Where are the DA revolvers and .22 pistols? Colt has been dead for some time and they just forgot to hold the wake. A real pity.
 
thatguy said:
I don't think I'd call them "back in the business" since there's nothing new there and they were never really gone. Also not sure if I'd call it much of a business offering only three guns. Where are the DA revolvers and .22 pistols? Colt has been dead for some time and they just forgot to hold the wake. A real pity.
Colt is alive and well, I have bought numerous colts in the last few years and they all have been excellent.:rolleyes:
 
thatguy said:
I don't think I'd call them "back in the business" since there's nothing new there and they were never really gone. Also not sure if I'd call it much of a business offering only three guns. Where are the DA revolvers and .22 pistols? Colt has been dead for some time and they just forgot to hold the wake. A real pity.

it's not 3 guns ,there's 3 type of guns : pistols , single action revolvers and AR-15 type rifles. hmm... Colt doesn't manufacture DA revolvers and .22 pistols anymore. :)
 
Colt will not be restarting production of Pythons, Anacondas, King Cobras, Troopers, or any other DA revolver ever again is what I heard.

So if you find a good deal on any Colt wheelguns, snatch it up. They'll only get more rare in the future. I got a hankering for a King Cobra or Python myself.
 
Lone_Gunman said:
Well you must be buying the same thing over and over, because all they make anymore are SAA, 1911s, and a very limited selection of ARs.
I buy 1911 variants so in effect yes....is there anything wrong with this?:evil:
 
When sueing the gunmakers was at a height, Colt backed off their line. They never "Ceased" production, but did cut back. Now that the gunmaker is not liable when it comes to a criminal using it in a stupid manner, they are starting to gain some steam.
 
Here are the actual numbers, according to the ATF (from http://www.atf.gov/firearms/stats/index.htm):

Total pistols manufactured:

Colt
Year Number
1998 62,757
1999 36,320
2000 26,470
2001 25,916
2002 14,994
2003 13,675

To compare:

Sig
Year Number
1998 54,531
1999 72,398
2000 No data
2001 No data
2002 71,483
2003 57,501


Kimber
Year Number
1998 31,762
1999 37,298
2000 49,075
2001 32,746
2002 46,653
2003 48,245

Springfield
Year Number
1998 11,005
1999 17,951
2000 23,021
2001 27,186
2002 48,249
2003 78,254
 
It's hard to sell guns when you don't make guns. If you want any DA revolver Colt can't help you. If you want any .22 handgun Colt has nothing to sell you. They only make 1911s, SAAs and AR15s, the three most copied and cloned guns in history and they can't compete with all the companies underselling them on these designs.

Cop shops are buying hi-cap DA semi-autos. Ooops, Colt is out of that market. S&W is selling the crap out of their retro revolvers. Ooops, Colt dropped all their DA revolvers.

It's a long and sordid story of poor management, bad design (can say yuck... I mean Cadet?) and shabby marketing. I got my first Colt in 1973 and I still have it along with a bunch more I picked up over the years. But what can they offer me now?
 
I was at Minnesotas largest gun show today. One guy had 2 new SAA for 1250.00 and $1475.00. They were the only new Colts at the gun show.
If Colt is still making guns nobody is bothering to try to sell them, at least around here.
 
The largest MWCA show is next month at the Fairgrounds!
rallyhound said:
I was at Minnesotas largest gun show today. One guy had 2 new SAA for 1250.00 and $1475.00. They were the only new Colts at the gun show.
If Colt is still making guns nobody is bothering to try to sell them, at least around here.
 
Colt tried for a bit with the failed 2000 Polymer gun and some of the pocket 380s and 9mms for the ccw crowd. They also thought they could corner the police market with a smart gun.

These flopped. They were sunk.
 
larry starling said:
I think if you upgrade from a springfield to Colt you will indeed see that there Alive and Well.:scrutiny:

I'm not quite sure I understand your comment. I have no reason to "upgrade" my Springfield, as my PX9130L is one of the most accurate and reliable guns in my collection. Both it and my GI carry a lifetime warranty, and the customer support is outstanding. How exactly would buying one gun allow me to see how well the entire company is doing? I never stated that their guns were of poor quality, as I believe quite the opposite for the most part.

And if I were to upgrade to something from Colt for what I paid for my Springer, it would be a barebones model without the features that I want. If it ain't broke, why try fix it...
 
WarMachine said:
And if I were to upgrade to something from Colt for what I paid for my Springer, it would be a barebones model without the features that I want.


It's true that Colt's pistols aren't price-competitive when you compare features. But they do have the features that some of us demand:

Hand-fitting
Bar-stock parts
Very few (if any) castings or MIM

According to Mark at Colt, they aren't trying to compete with other companies that like to put thier stuff on the front of magazines and sell pistols based on the lates "whiz-bang" features (such as the wierd "fish scaling" that's getting so trendy :barf: ).
Thier target market are those individuals who appreciate hand-craftsmanship and high-quality parts. Colt pistols are still made the old way , and that's what some of us demand.

I had a Kimber when I bought my Colt Government. Now the Kimber is gone.
 
I realize everyone doesn't look for the same features, which is why my post was stating what I personally was looking for and wanted. I am poor and still in school. Right now, I buy things that work while giving me the least amount of trouble and keeping my wallet as heavy as possible.

YMMV.
 
Kevin Quinlan said:
Colt, like Ruger, sold out to the Brady Bunch. They can both sink into chapter 13 and I couldn't be happier:)

Kevin

And, S&W as well, LOCKS? So, I guess you'll have to buy a Rossi? Don't buy non-American? Well, I guess there's nothing on the market to buy, then.

There is NAA, Kel Tec, Hi Point, Kimber, Spingfield Armory. I guess there are a few companies out there.

Politics is politics. I don't do the boycott thing. I vote, I donate to NRA, that should be enough. Anyway, the NRA is a more effective way to fight the left wing IMHO.
 
Sergeant Sabre said:
It's true that Colt's pistols aren't price-competitive when you compare features. But they do have the features that some of us demand:

Hand-fitting
Bar-stock parts
Very few (if any) castings or MIM

According to Mark at Colt, they aren't trying to compete with other companies that like to put thier stuff on the front of magazines and sell pistols based on the lates "whiz-bang" features (such as the wierd "fish scaling" that's getting so trendy :barf: ).
Thier target market are those individuals who appreciate hand-craftsmanship and high-quality parts. Colt pistols are still made the old way , and that's what some of us demand.

I had a Kimber when I bought my Colt Government. Now the Kimber is gone.
...Hey, dont forget those lovely 2-piece barrels and cheap foreign labor!! :neener:
 
WarMachine said:
I'm not quite sure I understand your comment. I have no reason to "upgrade" my Springfield, as my PX9130L is one of the most accurate and reliable guns in my collection. Both it and my GI carry a lifetime warranty, and the customer support is outstanding. How exactly would buying one gun allow me to see how well the entire company is doing? I never stated that their guns were of poor quality, as I believe quite the opposite for the most part.

And if I were to upgrade to something from Colt for what I paid for my Springer, it would be a barebones model without the features that I want. If it ain't broke, why try fix it...
I think your way off on your thinking. For one I bought my SS colt XSE for $729.00, Springfield ss loadeds are selling for 702.00-789.00 in my area. Also I know for a fact the Colt has way less cast and mim parts than the springfield. As far as customer service I have never had to send any colt I own in for problems. Can't say the same for loaded model I had that quit working.....:evil:
 
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