Colt Police Positive cylinder problems

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First off some history, I have a Colt Police Positive in .32 the gun was found by a friend in Mississippi in about three inchs off salt water after Katrina. It was totally rusted beyond recognition and the friend disassembled it and placed in a can of kerosene until just recently when he took it out of the kerosene, sandblasted the frame, cylinder, hammer and frame cover. He said that the cylinder catch (bolt) broke when he disassembled it and that he he was'nt sure about the rest of the parts given to me in a skoal can. So I reassembled with what parts I had- missing bolt spring-bolts broke- bolt screw needs replaced. With bolt issue I could not check the cylinder, so new bolt, bolt spring and screw, now the reassembled and the gun will function properly as long as you put pressure against the front of the cylinder assembly underneath the ejector rod ( right where the serial Number is), otherwise it is floppy and causes lock up issues WHAT IS THE DEAL? the first four of the serial # is 1736 if anyone has some history on it. Thanks in advance
 
Too add,
I suspect the crane is bent but I cannot understand why it is floppy to began with, I could understand a bent crane if it wasnt as floppy loose as it is and the cylinder locked into the frame as it should. Please help
 
How frustrating!

I love working on those old Colts but I can't figure it out based on your description.

Is the cylinder locking into the frame properly (not indexing)?

[Edit] Another thought: do you have the proper screw/spring/plunger assembly that hold the crane into the frame?
 
Probable problems are a sprung cylinder crane, a worn ejector, a worn cylinder latch pin and/or a worn latch pin hole in the frame, or even a sprung frame.

A sprung crane typically is loose like this, and the same if the frame itself is sprung.

Colt serial numbers are "picky". You have to post the actual number of digits in the serial number.
1736 isn't enough.

When its that bad, typically repairs cost far more then the gun is worth.
 
It sounds like the cylinder latch is not seating in the hole in the ejector. That is what locks a Colt cylinder in place. As to why that would be, I have no idea, but try pushing forward on the latch and see if it will seat.

Jim
 
rmfnla,

1. The cylinder loads into the frame properly and locks into place but at the front of the crane (the part of the crane that would cover the serial number if open) is loose and causes indexing problems, unless you pinch it with your fingers to hold it shut then it indexs fine.

2. Everything on the gun is original except the new bolt, bolt spring and bolt screw. The cylinder assembly has not been tampered with. The gun was heavly corroded and my friend didnt know any better but to bead blast it to remove the rust, I asked him what bead he used and he wasnt sure but it did not seem to take alot of steel off becouse you can see the fine rust pits well.
 
Jim Keenan,

The cylinder latch is bit tricky to line up but I double checked and it is functioning fine, just for the heck of it, I advanced the ejector a whole turn to make the ratchet hole deeper so the latch pin could go in farther and it still had the problem.
 
dfariswheel,

What is a good well to test the straighteness of the frame and the crane? just by eyeballing it appears fine but I know how steel can fool you! thanks
 
rmfnla,

1. The cylinder loads into the frame properly and locks into place but at the front of the crane (the part of the crane that would cover the serial number if open) is loose and causes indexing problems, unless you pinch it with your fingers to hold it shut then it indexs fine.

2. Everything on the gun is original except the new bolt, bolt spring and bolt screw. The cylinder assembly has not been tampered with. The gun was heavly corroded and my friend didnt know any better but to bead blast it to remove the rust, I asked him what bead he used and he wasnt sure but it did not seem to take alot of steel off becouse you can see the fine rust pits well.
Sounds to me like the crane is bent.

If it is it can be straightened by a knowledgable 'smith.
 
The question I would ask at this point is whether the gun is worth spending any more time or money on. After what it has been through, from nature and man, it will have very little if any value, and it certainly can't be "restored" in any reasoable meaning of that word.

I know we "gun nuts" hate to give up and see something like this the same way AA sees "rescuing" an alcoholic, but sometimes we just need to recognize a lost cause.

Jim
 
I guess I'll order a new crane, crane pin and screw for it and see if that cures it if not My freind will have about a $100 (parts cost) wall hanger
 
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