LOL, I agree but you missed the, "tongue-in-cheek" part. That said (again tongue in cheek) I would get killed on the street, three times, before the rearward motion of a Colt cylinder release became as natural as the forward motion of a S&W is to me currently. I have been competing with a S&W too long to make that transition easy. And since I have no use for a 357 Magnum I don't have much motivation to do so with this new Colt.Enough rounds through the gun, as anyone *should* do, and "goes the wrong way" is... irrelevant.
I agree they're currently over rated . I can't think of any regular production guns by any maker that had the blueing of the old colts though, that's worth something. Fit and finish are reserved for high end & customs. Most makers like to use stainless cause they run it on a buffer for 30 seconds and they're done.IMO, the original Pythons are pretty over-rated. I think they are nice guns, but not deserving of the mythic regard in which some people hold them. I don't think they are as good a gun as the pre-lock Smith 686, for example. It'll be interesting to see how the new Pythons turn out, though. I'm happy to see them on the market as any new gun is welcomed (even the ones that I have no interest in owning), and a new revolver especially so.
...And comparing it to the old style Colt lockwork is futile - this is a new gun, with new guts. Just evaluate it for what it is, don't compare it to something vastly different just because of the same name....
Is it a Python or just a King Cobra with a vent-rib barrel?
It's fair enough of it's not an New-Old-Python. I don't expect that. But how is it different than a King Cobra Target more than aesthetically?
Buying a Python is like buying a Dan Wesson 715. There is some status to owning either one. They are nice looking revolvers. The ones I've seen are decent shooters in the right hands. After that it's just a 357 revolver that you will want to clean more often and will have trouble finding local service.Have a question. Looking for *unbiased* answers. Is there anything that objectively warrants the $1500 MSRP on the new Python ? Anything functionality wise that makes it double the MSRP ? Forget the Colt pony on the side, just compare apples with apples. Anything better than a slicked up GP100 or Performance Center 686 ? Because I can buy roughly 2 GP100's or 686's (though I wouldn't buy a new one) for the price of a Python.
The original pythons just weren't that good. S&W put out the 586 to go head to head with the pythons & it did just that, gave them all they could handle.
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I've carried a 4" Python, a 4" M-66 and a 4" 686, both as duty guns and as competition guns; I even owned an early GP100...so I feel like I have a fairly unbiased opinion. The 586/686 was introduced so that S&W had a revolver that could keep up with the Python...as the K-frame S&W models in stock form could not. In fit and finish the Python had always been compared to the S&W M27. The new Python appears to have been priced to compete with the Performance Center 627Looking for *unbiased* answers. Is there anything that objectively warrants the $1500 MSRP on the new Python ? Anything functionality wise that makes it double the MSRP ?
I've carried a 4" Python, a 4" M-66 and a 4" 686, both as duty guns and as competition guns; I even owned an early GP100...so I feel like I have a fairly unbiased opinion. The 586/686 was introduced so that S&W had a revolver that could keep up with the Python...as the K-frame S&W models in stock form could not. In fit and finish the Python had always been compared to the S&W M27. The new Python appears to have been priced to compete with the Performance Center 627
The first thing that struck me when reading about the reintroduction of the Python was how it was priced at a point that made it practical to shoot regularly as opposed to being a Safe Queen. I've had three pythons and recently sold two of them because the going price of them just became so high that I'd be silly not to sell them...I paid $475 (retail) for one and $369 (used) for the other. The one I kept, paid $275 for it, has been slicked up by a master, but more importantly has saved my life.
What I'm really interested in seeing are the internals of the new Python. The old Python action had many parts doing double duty already, so it will be interesting to see how CNC machining has reengineered the internals.
The original Python was usually more accurate than a comparable S&W or Ruger. A lot of this had to do with the different twist rate of the barrel and the secondary lockup of the cylinder just before hammer fall. Unfortunately this tighter lock up is what has lead to the Pythons reputation of "shooting loose" earlier...luckily this isn't a difficult matter to address
The 7-shot cylinder was an answer looking for a question that was never asked.Then why doesn't it have 7 chambers?
I think that is enough to justify it's MSRP and comparison to the Performance Center 627This is all I've found.
There's *supposed* to be a file attached there....I think that is enough to justify it's MSRP and comparison to the Performance Center 627
I'm thinking folks who paid $2500-$4000 for a Python would be happy to pay $1500 for a one they'd be willing to shoot
Oh it really is simplified. I'm glad they kept the leaf spring as opposed to going with a coil spring. Looks like the cylinder still rotates into the frame.Here it is... hopefully.
There is no way to answer this question as none of us have handled or shot the new Python.Have a question. Looking for *unbiased* answers. Is there anything that objectively warrants the $1500 MSRP on the new Python ? Anything functionality wise that makes it double the MSRP ? Forget the Colt pony on the side, just compare apples with apples. Anything better than a slicked up GP100 or Performance Center 686 ? Because I can buy roughly 2 GP100's or 686's (though I wouldn't buy a new one) for the price of a Python.
Nothing that I know of as:Ok. May I ask what "optimism" of the hammer leverage does ?
The easiest example would be to roll back the hammer of a tuned S&W revolver and note the difference in force required compared to a similar revolver equipped with an Apex Tactical Specialties Evolution 4 hammer...which has been optimized.I've dealt with a multitude of revolvers, both DA and SA, and in my experience, if I need to cock the hammer, I either do so with my left hand, or as part of the draw stroke w/ my right.
Have one. Really nice. It’d be cool if someone made a new one that I could shoot a lot and use at matches and stuff. Oh waitWhy get a “new” one if it’s only as good as “90%” of an old one? Seems like you’re really saying you want an “old” one.
It’s at least twice as good looking though....I highly doubt the new Python is going to have a trigger that is twice what a S&W can be and I doubt it will take twice the abuse the Ruger can take.