Colt Walker Parts

[PND]

Ok guys, need some help. I have a Colt Walker, 1847, Replica Arms Co. replica that needs a new wedge. Uberti is too small (bought one) and I understand Republic Arms was bought up by Armi San Marco way back and both are no more. Looked everywhere I could find on the internet but no luck. Anybody else have this problem and where did you find parts for this pistol. Thanks

 

[Zulch]

PND,
Hi. I have a Ubert 2021 version of a Walker. I just broke it down and been cleaning all the factory grease etc. Anyway, so was the wedge considerably smaller? Just playing devils advocate here. Is it remotely possible they sent the wrong one? I would love to see a picture of the Walker when you have time and don't mind?
Thanks,
Tim

 

[PND]

As you can see, the larger wedge is the correct size. The smaller one is an Uberti wedge. The wedge I have was apparently damaged and repaired sometime in the past. It was my fathers and not sure if it was him or who he bought it from that did the "repair". Pictured also is the pistol. I also have a Colt Heritage Commemorative model that is still in the box. Have attached a few pictures of it to. I'll do another reply to add more pictures.

 

[PND]

More of my Heritage Colt Walker. My dad actually bought two, but I gave one to my sister after our mom died. Knowing her she has probably lost it.

 

[Zulch]

PND,
Awesome!! Thank you. Not questioning you but that Uberti wedge is obviously smaller that's why I wonder if they sent you the wrong part number. If I may ask, where did you buy the wedge? I love your revolvers man. Very nice and thank you for posting them. Beauties, they are.
Thanks,
Tim

 

[Zulch]

FANTASTIC!! Man those are nice.
I also noticed on the other post that the serial numbers were low on the one you are trying to find a wedge for. Cool. So you said it appeared someone had performed some modification to the original wedge? Maybe added metal and sanded down to fit? Just curious. Did your father shoot that pistol and or do you know much on the history of it? Also, I hope sis didn't misplace her's thanks, Tim

 

[Zulch]

PND, I will check my Walker wedge tonight and compare with my other Colt replicas. I know that really doesn't help but curiosity has got me.

 

[PND]

From what I have found, it all comes down to who made the replica. Note on the pictures the number 806, part of that number is still visible on the "repaired" wedge. The wedge still works except for the spring doesn't move freely and appears a little damaged. Who ever did the repair should have removed the spring before, what looks like welding to add material, was done. The spring was only intended to help lock the wedge in place.

 

[Captain*kirk]

From what I have found, it all comes down to who made the replica. Note on the pictures the number 806, part of that number is still visible on the "repaired" wedge. The wedge still works except for the spring doesn't move freely and appears a little damaged. Who ever did the repair should have removed the spring before, what looks like welding to add material, was done. The spring was only intended to help lock the wedge in place.

The spring is there to keep the wedge from falling out when loosened.

 

[Zulch]

Someone more knowledgeable than I said "If Uberti doesn't fit, it's an ASM" I believe you had mentioned ASM from the beginning. My apologies. Is this one going to be a wall hanger or will you be shooting it?

 

[halfmoonclip]

Perhaps check Dixie Gun Works. They obliged me with a screw for a '51 cartridge conversion.
They have an onsite smith T-F; give them a call. 713 885-0700 or 800 238-6785.
Moon

 

[LonesomePigeon]

I believe Replica Arms Co. was an importer, not a manufacturer. The Walker you have looks like an early Armi San Marco. They have different specs from both later ASM's and from Uberti. Other than Ebay I don't know where you might find early ASM Walker parts.

 

[PND]

Just "stumbled" onto a thread here on "The High Road" from 2019 - "ASM Walker and Dragoon Wedges". Hoof Hearted says he made some and had some for sale. Several years ago but sent him an email to see if he still had any. Worth a shop!
[email protected]

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

Two things, you have to make one, I had to make a new wedge for one of my ASM Walkers. Its not that hard. That original wedge can salvaged. The arbor is short on you gun, that's what caused the problem in the first place. I can offer repair services and tuning for your pistol. PM me if you want to go further.

 

[Zulch]

Just "stumbled" onto a thread here on "The High Road" from 2019 - "ASM Walker and Dragoon Wedges". Hoof Hearted says he made some and had some for sale. Several years ago but sent him an email to see if he still had any. Worth a shop!
[email protected]

Awesome! Wish you luck on that my friend

 

[whughett]

Just a thought. But the wedge is a pretty simple part. Could one not obtain a piece of steel and file or grind one to shape. As noted it doesn't really need the spring to function.

 

[Captain*kirk]

Just a thought. But the wedge is a pretty simple part. Could one not obtain a piece of steel and file or grind one to shape. As noted it doesn't really need the spring to function.

I reckon you could. Mild steel would likely be perfectly functional, as it would allow the wedge to take any wear rater than the arbor slot or barrel lug.

 

[PND]

Well got ahold of "buckaroobarns" and we will be having a phone conversation about my wedge issue. Which leads me to another question. Have noticed that the cylinder moves back and forth about .020+ of an inch. To me that seems excessive. Even my old Remington 1858 doesn't move hardly at all. Since I will be selling the Colt Walker, want to make sure it is not a bomb waiting to go off. Thoughts!!

 

[Zulch]

PND, Yes, that is a lot of slop in there. I've read that "An ideal gap is "about" 0.005".
Anything under about 0.003" may give binding problems as the gun heats up or the cylinder face fouls." the previous a quote from another thread. Also, is the hammer in half cocked position when you measured?

 

[PND]

The hammer was in the fired position. I cocked it and it gets very tight, almost no movement. I take it that is a good thing?

 

[45 Dragoon]

PND, Yes, that is a lot of slop in there. I've read that "An ideal gap is "about" 0.005".
Anything under about 0.003" may give binding problems as the gun heats up or the cylinder face fouls." the previous a quote from another thread. Also, is the hammer in half cocked position when you measured?

So, what I've been doing for - say 6 yrs + , is bad?!! I routinely use .0025"-.003" as my target range results in a binding situation? Wish I'd known!! After many competitions won, that's a first!! Lol!!

Mike

 

[Zulch]

What Mike ( the gunsmith) said. ^^^^^^^
I stand corrected Mike thanks for correcting me on that. I yield to the more knowledgeable people.
Tim

 

[45 Dragoon]

Lol my friend!! You are OK in my book!!!

Mike

 

[Zulch]

Thank you Mike. I appreciate your knowledge and experience sincerely. Tim

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Replica Arms of Marietta, Ohio was bought out by Navy Arms of New Jersey who continued to mark their products with a circled "RA" logo for some time afterwards. Replica Arms imported the large frame (Walker/Dragoons) and small frame (Baby Dragoon/Pocket/Wells Fargo) replicas from Armi San Marco but started importing their medium frames (1851/1860) from Uberti at some point. Navy Arms continued this dichotomy until Uberti started making the large and small frame replicas and they then bought exclusively from them. ASM logos are found on the left side of the frame, the underside of the frame in front of the trigger guard or on the barrel either on the side or hidden by the loading lever. Their logos include: SM, ASM, Marco, San Marco, Armi San Marco and a pyramid with the letters "ASM" interlocking and overlapping. CVA Walkers (and other models) of that time period were also made by ASM so their wedges should also work. I would set up a search on Ebay and run it every day or so for Sporting Goods/Hunting/Wedge and see what comes along. Good Luck!