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I wanted to get some opinions on what you guys would think if you HAD to use a 22. I am not looking for those of you who will say ditch it and get a real gun. Seriously if all we had was some sort of tactical 22. Lets here it, from techniques bullets optics what rifle/ pistol that you would use. Becuase I think the mighty 22 might supprise us in some good and bad ways.
 
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I would be more than comfortable with my 10-22. I would equip it with a red dot for putting shots down range with battle accuracy and necessary speed.. depending on the rang of the shots I would aim center mass (longer ranges) and work my way up the torso, neck and to the head the closer the threat came. The 10-22 is has hi capacity mags readily available, very short and light, and has plenty of accuracy to disuad whoever it must, and reliable enough to shoot thousands of rounds without an issue.
 
I just bought a Ruger 10.22, and although i have a remy 870 12gauge I still wondered the same thing as you.
I would imagine if you were familiar enough with the rifle, with a hicap mag and it was semi-auto, going for chest shots, and lots of them, would be your best bet, unless you could reliably headshot the assailant.
The first 200 rounds through my ruger garuntee me I will not currently hit a moving target at 30 yards in the standing position. (which I would think is how you want to engage targets)

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You didn't mention the type of combat.
Home defense? in the average single family dwelling, or appartment/condos
Rural home outdoors with various outbuildings?
The super market?
Mrs Black bear and her cubs hiking in the bush?
 
Well you ain't gonna win any firefights with one so I guess a .22 with night vision optics and a can you might have a chance if you go stealthy at night and sleep during the day. Still better than a knife or stick only I guess.
 
I think this is going to get very commical considering some of you guys think a 22 is slightly better than a stick or knife.:neener::neener:
 
I didn't think that Gunkid got out of Club Fed until sometime next year.

The notion of using a .22 LR firearm as any sort of combat weapon is beyond ridiculous.

Sure, your 10/22 is awesome. I can understand that feeling. But it's no sort of substitute for a weapon chambered in a decent centerfire cartridge.
 
I would find cover just as quickly for gunfire from a .22 LR as I would from a .50 BMG. It might be slightly different cover, but I would try to find it just as quickly none the less. Something considered cover for a .22 LR, might merely be considered concealment for a .50 BMG.

Open sights on a Ruger 10/22 - nothing to break, simple, inexpensive, you can upgrade it if you want or leave it as is.

Not the best option, but if you had to...
 
You also didn't mention if we are talking about pistols or rifles.

Depending on the range of engagment, the .22 is a hell of alot better than a knife.
Thing is, at less than 10 yards, I know a couple guys who could kill me with a knife before I could aim and fire my 10/22.
Against an angry black bear (or any bear for that matter, or an angry moose) I would probably **** myself if all I had was a .22. Hence my 870 with 1 #4 birdshot and 5 slugs
 
Hey I have plenty of combat proven weapons and use them for my job, I just figured I would start a fun thread to hear peoples ideas but someone always has ruin it thats why I posted that I didn't want the ditch the 22 geta real gun answers. The whole point was if all you had was a 22:banghead:
 
22LR is very dangerous, like any hi-speed projectile tearing through your body...

This doesn't need to be argued, and it's pointless, the bodies speak for themselves.

The real problem isn't whether it has the potential. The problem is the unpredictability of small, low powered calibers, since they are more easily stopped by bones and other barriers and they require a heart or central nervous system hit for an instant stop.

I have seen small birds that were hit in the guts by a 22LR, and still managed to fly 100yards away. I have also seen man-sized deer stopped in their tracks by a heart shot from the same rifle. It all depends on where and how many times you hit.
 
Come on Jambo.. you havent seen the newest technology that allows you to keep an AR/AK in your jejunum or the more expensive one that allows you to keep it in your ileum? and the ammo for them is everywhere or havent you noticed... that damn .22 ammunition is just too heavy and clumsy to carry as compared to equal amounts of .223 or 7.62x39.
 
Israeli's use 10/22s, I'd personally prefer my Spike's Tactical conversion in my AR15, if for some reason I was stuck with that issue.

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In this scenario, is the enemy also equipped with .22s? If so, I'm sure a platoon armed with 10-22s, and maybe one of those double 10-22 hand cranked gatling guns could be effective. Think of all the ammo they could carry. In fact a war waged with rimfires might be a great idea. With modern medical treatment close to the battlefield, maybe the death rate would be lower.

I don't mean to be a killjoy, but if you're armed with a .22LR and the enemy is fielding AKs and .50 cals, your best bet is to run. Fast. And you're going to want to zig and zag a little, too.

The Israelis deploy 10-22s against kids throwing rocks. And there are a lot of guys standing around the .22 shooter armed to the teeth with much bigger guns.
 
i think that if a 22 is all u have then you probably haven't taken the time to trick it out either. If its all i had i would spend my time laying low and not taking the fight to the enemy.
 
I actually think shooting at the farther ranges would be better. If you are using a red dot, thats in too close IMO. I would think you over scope the .22 and get good a calculating drop and make 100+ yd shots, letting the quiet sound mask your position. I think you avoid a fire fight, and do what .22s do best, plink! But from as far out as possible / still effective.


I actually think this tatic would be best with most calibers. In any senario, a firefight is the last thing you want, and would be something of last resort. It should be as unfair for the other side as possible.
 
I really think a 10/22 witha 50 roundmag full of stingers would set up one serious infection
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