conceal carry small of the back?

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good for concealment, but it seems like a lot of people don't like it due to the awkwardness of getting to it and the fact you are sweeping your vitals with it...plus it can increase chance of injury if you fall on it.

in my opinion, if your wardrobe allows you to get to it quickly and you practice with it like that, go for it
 
when carrying like this appropriately and removing the gun from the holster appropriately, the gun should never be pointed at your body... the gun should be carried (for a right handed person) in the small of the back, muzzle down, with the grips angled to the left, end of the mag to the left side, a grip should initiate with the ends of your fingers against your back and the gun being drawn away from your body... many people are under the misconception that the gun should be placed in the holster the oppostite way (for a right handed person) the grip angled to the right requireing one to grasp the gun while the back of the hand is brushed against the back and the gun is pointed at the body until the wrist is twisted to gain control of the gun... THE LATTER IS WRONG!!!
 
your spine? if you carry on your hip and fall, it can really hurt but there is no chance of becoming paralyzed. I'm not here to argue because I dont care how other people carry. i just stumbled on this and I can answer pt1911's question
 
spine injury...for example i have heard (no personal experiences on this one) that if you fall on it it can bruise/jar your spine. i guess it makes sense. the spine isn't quite as tough as the hip or butt...
 
Heard of a undercover guy getting into a fist fight with a biker -- the biker slamed him into the ground and helanded on his back --- the gun broke part of his spine.
 
OH... a blunt injury.. thought this was more of a reference to an accidental shooting.. was kinda confused for a moment... thanks for clearing that up... I carry small of the back the majority of the time.. typically with larger guns such as my pt1911.. very comfortable considering, but I can see how a fall could be painful... I did have someone try to tell me once that one could be paralyzed from an accidental discharge... laughed for quite some time seeing as it would likely shoot a hole in your pants and possibly hit you in the cheek, but seeing as the muzzle is already below the tailbone, just had laugh and shake my head.
 
Before CCW licenses were available, "some people" carried that way due to the requirement for "deep paranoid conceal" since if a person got made, arrest was the only option.

However, I've been told by those people that they never liked it. It would have been clumsy to draw and not so quick, either. Plus, you couldn't sit anywhere without feeling a hunk of steel jammed into your spine.

Now with legal CCW, the rare chance an officer might "think" you're carrying enough to ask for your legal license and then send you on your way makes small-of-back carry something "those people" will never do again.

Ironically with a legal license now, I've found that I can carry invisibly using a IWB holster with my Rohrbaugh in my front jeans pocket with the clip over the edge of the pocket.
With any shirt that hangs over it, there is no indication whatsoever I'm carrying, and if the clip shows by the shirt riding up just a little, it just looks like a cell phone in my pocket.

If only "those people" had known about the availability of such small pistols and great options for holtsters back when CCW licenses didn't exist.
 
Since I don't believe in leaving my carry piece in my vehicle, and scheduled to give a presentation in front of a audience. I don't work undercover, I don't hangout at biker bars, and my chamber is empty for reason.

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good for concealment, but it seems like a lot of people don't like it due to the awkwardness of getting to it and the fact you are sweeping your vitals with it...plus it can increase chance of injury if you fall on it.
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Other big drawback are the difficulty/discomfort of sitting against a chairback or car seat back with a big chunk of steel or plastic behind your kidneys or spine. (Which should help you to think clearly about that spine injury issue you've mentioned.)

And SOB carry prints through your clothes worse than any other position. If you stand very straight or lean back slightly you can maybe mask it, but movement or any kind of bending will telegraph your gun clearly through your jacket or shirt. Which is half of a big problem area. The other half is that a jacket or shirt will almost invariably ride up over it and hang up there, completely exposing it.

EDIT: I think that's what DoubeAction is showing us with the picture above. He must have been pretty embarrassed when someone caught him out like that and snapped a PHOTO of it! Yikes! ;-)

Really a "worst of both worlds" kind of plan.

-Sam
 
Thank you for the responses.

My apologies for not realizing there was a holster group I could have posted the question to.
 
EDIT: I think that's what DoubeAction is showing us with the picture above. He must have been pretty embarrassed when someone caught him out like that and snapped a PHOTO of it! Yikes! ;-)
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This holster is not favorite method of carry for me; since then, I've had surgery preformed on back called a Disc Fusion with screws and metal from a accident at work.

We were a taking break outside when I was showing my Wilson CQB Compact to a associate of mine; hence the reason is pistol was cleared and the hammer on down. The next thing I know, I spotted another associate taking pictures and he asked. I pulled up the jacket so that the picture of the holster could taken, nobody suspected anything.
 
I often carry my 92FS SOB in a black nylon Bianchi, under a long shirt or jacket. The angle is completely different than DoubleAction's picture above. Grip faces my left side, barrel points down and slightly to the left. I don't cover my organs when I draw, the Bianchi is good at preventing printing through clothing (it has "wings" and looks at most like a back brace), and I've never felt uncomfortable sitting down (I do take a little care in choosing my chair and making the maneuver).

I also sometimes carry inside rear waistband, without a holster, usually for shorter periods not involving sitting down or getting up much. That can be a little precarious, but under the right circumstances it's quicker to draw and the pistol can be shifted around carefully to accomodate different activities.

One advantage of SOB or rear waistband carry is that you can let your shirttails or jacket corners flap loose and carefree, and show your waist. People in front of you will not suspect you are carrying unless they approach you, reach around and pat your back.
 
This holster is not favorite method of carry for me; since then, I've had surgery preformed on back called a Disc Fusion with screws and metal from a accident at work.
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Oh ugh! :eek: Yeah, the thought of carrying SOB after back surgery like that is a bit like chewing on tin foil. Kind of makes your skin crawl!

We were a taking break outside when I was showing my Wilson CQB Compact to a associate of mine; hence the reason is pistol was cleared and the hammer on down. The next thing I know, I spotted another associate taking pictures and he asked. I pulled up the jacket so that the picture of the holster could taken, nobody suspected anything.
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:) Nice gun!

-Sam
 
Not a chance.
I had spinal fusion surgery two years ago. There is no way I will purposely put a chunk of steel against my spine.
 
I thought small of the back carry went extinct?

Just get a Milt Sparks vm2. Even if it deos make a little bulge in your shirt it still prints less than you average cell phone and pager.

Actully my work cell phone combined with my work pager on my right print exactly like a M9 would if I carried one owb. Noone's ever asked " Is that a pager and a cell phone under your shirt or are you carrying a fullsize pistol?". :D
 
The small of my back has a 4"+ scar from a L2-L5 laminectomy and it always hurts so not for me.

Maybe after I have spinal fusion I can glue a magnet to my pistol and just stick it to my back like a refrigerator magnet.
 
That small of back carry was featured on a couple of TV shows several years ago and some people went to it. But the TV detective didn't get his gun from "props" until the scene where he had to draw it, so he could go for a "cool" draw.

The main problem I see is that if you are carrying SOB, do not drop your wallet. When you bend over to pick it up, you look like that "humpty back camel" in the old song.

Jim
 
Jim Keenan: "The main problem I see is that if you are carrying SOB, do not drop your wallet. When you bend over to pick it up, you look like that "humpty back camel" in the old song."

Lesson One of SOB carry: Do NOT bend over for the wallet. Bend the knees and squat down for it. Incidentally, a criminal client once told me that this maneuver telegraphs to him that the person is wearing a wire or a gun. He may be telling the truth, but I'd have assumed the squatter had a back problem instead. Whatever, try not to drop your wallet in the first place.
 
Several years ago I bought a Galco SOB because I thought it was a very "cool" carry mode. Thank goodness I never had any spinal injury experience but wearing the holster right over my spine was very, very uncomfortable when I sat on just about anything!

Out of more or less desperation I just moved the holster a bit to the right (I am right handed) until it found a comfortable spot to reside - perhaps near 5 O'Clock? It worked perfectly. Easy to reach, comfortable to sit and I use it with a Ruger SP-101 to this day. Just don't wear it dead center:what:
 
This is where I carry (PF-9) in a desantis nylon holster, also I am right handed with the grip facing right. the draw is natural and smooth like reaching for my wallet, only 3 inches higher. In fact if surprised I assure you, A criminal will think I'm going for my wallet. Especially when I declare right away that, " I have Money."
 
and my chamber is empty for reason
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lol. Reason huh? :banghead:

Anywhoo, personally I don't do SOB because it's uncomfortable, I think it's a little easier to conceal there, but I can't get comfy. It's also a lot easier for me to have my shirt flipped up (exposing it) and not know it, but not a big deal. It'd be a lot harder to retain in a wrestling match with a bad guy though.
 
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